FERGUSON

[QA1517]

I would like to hear an account of a NG Soldier mobilized to the riots. Also I find it ironic "Anglos" have (one of) the loudest opinions of the racial climate in America.

I work with a gentleman who's son is an MP in the MO State Natl. Guard. He said that other than the second night they were stationed thruout St Louis at fire depts, police stations and some businesses. The second night after the announcement they were put into Ferguson as a show of force and to guard the looted and damaged buildings. No actual confrontations, no actual authority, other than to assist the police if needed. He went there 2 days before the grand jury announcement and is still there. Thought they would be dismissed this week but it is looking like they will rotate them thru Ferguson while the cleanup is still going on.

 

[LineInTheSand]

1. Brown robs store.

2. Description of Brown is provided to Ferguson police.

3. Officer Wilson sees a person matching description.

4. Brown is confronted.

5. Brown attacks officer in car, goes to weapon, is shot.

6. Brown runs, is told to stop.

7. Brown stops, turns and runs at officer.

8. Brown is shot dead.


Brown doesn't rob a store = Brown is never shot.

Brown doesn't attack a police officer = Brown is never shot.

Brown doesn't turn back after being shot to attack the officer again (AKA Brown keeps running) = Brown is likely not dead.

Wilson doesn't stop Brown = Wilson isn't doing the job he's sworn to do.


Brown's not a hero. He's not a civil rights activist. His death isn't tragic. His death is a result of his choices, throughout a lifetime, and culminating in a string of events over a short time.

There are incidents of racism across the U.S. (and around the world), affecting blacks and whites and Asians and Hispanics and Indians, etc......

This isn't one of those incidents.

There are incidents of police brutality or excessive force across the U.S. (and around the world).

This isn't one of those incidents.

 

[kinnem]

Well said LITS. Couldn't agree more. All this other crap going around about this is either criminal or BS.

 

[QA1517]

AMEN

But it's got to be about racism and brutality.........Al Sharpton said so.

 

[MabryPsyD]

In all honesty, I'm more disturbed by people's comments about the incident than the incident itself. People's true nature kinda unveiled itself on social media.

 

[Rocko]

1. Brown robs store.

2. Description of Brown is provided to Ferguson police.

3. Officer Wilson sees a person matching description.

4. Brown is confronted.

5. Brown attacks officer in car, goes to weapon, is shot.

6. Brown runs, is told to stop.

7. Brown stops, turns and runs at officer.

8. Brown is shot dead.


Brown doesn't rob a store = Brown is never shot.

Brown doesn't attack a police officer = Brown is never shot.

Brown doesn't turn back after being shot to attack the officer again (AKA Brown keeps running) = Brown is likely not dead.

Wilson doesn't stop Brown = Wilson isn't doing the job he's sworn to do.


Brown's not a hero. He's not a civil rights activist. His death isn't tragic. His death is a result of his choices, throughout a lifetime, and culminating in a string of events over a short time.

There are incidents of racism across the U.S. (and around the world), affecting blacks and whites and Asians and Hispanics and Indians, etc......

This isn't one of those incidents.

There are incidents of police brutality or excessive force across the U.S. (and around the world).

This isn't one of those incidents.

Gotta add that he likely is dead himself. Wonder how much media attention that would have brought though...

I think the saddest part is a young officer who in the line of duty did his job, now has to lose his job and even worse, fear for he and his families lives.

I say it is time for Al Sharpton to put on the uniform and patrol the streets at night. Lets see what he does when put into the same situation....

 

[LineInTheSand]

In all honesty, I'm more disturbed by people's comments about the incident than the incident itself. People's true nature kinda unveiled itself on social media.

Qualify that a bit. What have you been seeing that's disturbing.

I've got a pretty large Facebook friend list. I have an even bigger LinkedIn network. The two overlap with friends and old CGA and GW classmates, as well as old Coast Guard coworkers, but Facebook is a playground and LinkedIn is the office.

While I've seen disturbing tweets and Facebook posts in the news, my networks have been reasonable. In fact (and not at all surprisingly) LinkedIn has been silent.

On Facebook it's split. I have a fairly good mix friends on Facebook. Some were pro-Michael Brown. Some were pro Officer Wilson. Most were anti-looting. I don't think I had any who were "pro-looting."

I'm conservative. I tend to side with Wilson, who I think acted correctly, especially given his training. I tend to believe Brown was a criminal. I tend to believe Brown's actions lead to his death.

Discussions on Facebook revolved around the actions of the policy, the actions of Brown, what could have been done differently, and often a more general discussion of society. All of those discussions were pretty reasonable, even when I strongly disagreed with someone else.

 

[LineInTheSand]

I say it is time for Al Sharpton to put on the uniform and patrol the streets at night. Lets see what he does when put into the same situation....

Al Sharpton is self-serving. He inserts himself to stay relevent.

I met Jesse Jackson at Rockefeller Center a few years ago, at an NBC office party, during the tree lighting. I haven't met a colder, less welcoming individual in my life. I'm met meaner people, sure, but no one that colder. Not a glint of love in those eyes... and he's supposed to be a "reverend"... I'll certainly never use "Rev." for Sharpton or Jackson.

 

[Sledge]

In all honesty, I'm more disturbed by people's comments about the incident than the incident itself. People's true nature kinda unveiled itself on social media.

So, some people said hurtful, offensive, dare I say racist, "words" on social media?

While other people looted, burned, and beat a person (from another race, I might add, since that dynamic seems to be important) to death with hammers.

One disturbs me more than the other.

 

[MedB]

One disturbs me more than the other.

I understand your point. But not sure that anyone has done themselves proud if their claim is "My unacceptable behavior is less bad than yours".

 

[sheriff3]

1. Brown robs store.

2. Description of Brown is provided to Ferguson police.

3. Officer Wilson sees a person matching description.

4. Brown is confronted.

5. Brown attacks officer in car, goes to weapon, is shot.

6. Brown runs, is told to stop.

7. Brown stops, turns and runs at officer.

8. Brown is shot dead.


Brown doesn't rob a store = Brown is never shot.

Brown doesn't attack a police officer = Brown is never shot.

Brown doesn't turn back after being shot to attack the officer again (AKA Brown keeps running) = Brown is likely not dead.

Wilson doesn't stop Brown = Wilson isn't doing the job he's sworn to do.


Brown's not a hero. He's not a civil rights activist. His death isn't tragic. His death is a result of his choices, throughout a lifetime, and culminating in a string of events over a short time.

There are incidents of racism across the U.S. (and around the world), affecting blacks and whites and Asians and Hispanics and Indians, etc......

This isn't one of those incidents.

There are incidents of police brutality or excessive force across the U.S. (and around the world).

This isn't one of those incidents.

Completly Agree!!!