Here goes. I’m going to give a Noms 101 note first, then reading homework, then go back to your post specifics.
The typical candidate can apply to 3 MOCs plus VP. Others may be eligible to apply for additional.
MOCs can have 5 appointees per SA, spread out over 4 years. As appointees graduate, this creates the space for the incoming classes. The MOC usually have one appointee per class being charged to them, and occasionally a year when they submit 2 slates, and 2 appointees are charged to them. Don’t forget either 1 or 2 likely graduated in May of this year, as they do every year. The MOC staff and the SA keep careful track of this.
Now, of the up to 15 nominees on a slate, one will be the appointee charged to the MOC nom authority.
Here’s the key - the SA can go back to that slate and choose other fully qualified nominees to offer appointments to, but they are charged to other nom authorities the SAs manage, not the MOC.
In any given District there will be the one appointee (or possibly 2 in certain years) charged to the Representative. “Slate winner” is often used to refer to that appointee. There may be others chosen from that slate using the nom authorities Admissions controls. There may be appointees with Presidential,VP, ROTC or other service-related nominations. They may or may not have been on that slate or a Senator’s slate.
Now, go to this link and read pages 5-8.
I haven’t found the updated edition yet at open sources with the slate of 15 mentioned, but the other info on nom
authorities is good.
https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20191218_RL33213_f3a4006314d3a115f3b527e698866af2075056c5.pdf
Do that - then see my notes below.
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YOU: So, as you advised, I went to the top of the Nomination forum to check out the FAQs. I hope you don't mind if I ask for some clarification on some things I'm not sure what they mean. This quote here:
"The good news is that candidates from competitive districts tend to have strong records and thus compete very well in the National Pool. Thus, it's possible that 6, 7, 8 or - theoretically— even all 15 nominees from a slate in a super-competitive district will ultimately receive appointments. One "wins" the slate and the others are charged to other entities, such as the SecNav/SecAF, etc."
ME: The “national pool” is an informal term. All the fully qualified nominees on a slate other than the slate winner go into a category or pool from which Admissions can choose other appointees and charge them to other nom authorities they control
YOU: So, my understanding is that even though there is a slate of 15, only one person gets the nomination, correct? So the candidate in the #1 spot will get it unless they drop out entirely, correct? So then, it's the last part I don't understand. What does it mean to say "others are charged to other entities"? My DS has no other means of nomination besides the MOCs, so I'm not sure if it's referring to candidates with options beyond that. Or, well, I don't know the or part either.
ME: No. See my notes at post start. One nominee from the slate gets the appointment charged to the MOC. There is hope for all the other fully qualifed nominees on the slate. If your DS receives a nom and is fully qualified, he gets another shot at consideration for an appointment in the “national pool,” where Admissions can use the nom authorities it controls.
YOU: Also this:
"Some will ask you if you already have a nom to the SA from ANY source and, if so, not even consider you. Some will get together with the other MOCs in the state and ensure no one gets more than one nom to any particular SA. And some will get together such that a candidate will receive only 1 nom to 1 SA, period."
ME: This is the collaboration and variations seen from some MOCs.
YOU: Given that we are probably up there among the most competitive regions in the country, it seems unlikely that DS would ever even be able to compete for, much less win, a 2nd nomination, and much, much less a 2nd nomination to a 2nd choice. I'm thinking that spending the time finishing the 2nd application has a 0% chance of amounting to anything. You mentioned the issue of being labeled a withdrawal, but I am sure he has no interest in the prep schools or in re-applying if he's already started college elsewhere. He's eager to get to the next stage. Anyway, if all those things happen, he could be interested in OTS someday, but would a withdrawal affect OTS when it's so far in the future?
ME: A withdrawal won’t affect OCS or OTS down the road.
Do some browsing on the dozens and dozens of threads of the service prep schools and the sponsored prep scholarships. They are considered golden tickets, in that if the candidate successfully completes the course, they will be offered an appointment. The SA is saying “We are saving a seat for you in the Class of 2030, but we want to ensure your success there.” At NAPS, MAPS and USAFAPS, they gain immersion experience in their service culture, customs, disciplines, uniforms and grooming, standards, inspections, schedules, hard work, bed-making! They receive focused academic prep tailored to their SA. They have enlisted status, so that is an instant source of a service secretary nomination. They soak up been there-done that knowledge from prior enlisted classmates. They bond, and come to their SA as a tight group of ready-made friends. They are a year away from home, tougher and more mature, with a toolkit ready to go. They are fit and will pass the PRT with no problem. They are respected by plebe classmates fresh out of high school. They tend to do extremely well in leadership positions. Proud prepsters have gone on to outstanding careers reaching the highest ranks in their service. If a candidate truly wants the SA experience as their path to service as an officer, they grab that golden ticket , count thrmselves truly blessed, don’t worry about the extra year and get to work. A good portion of each class are re-applicants and a year or two older than direct admits out of HS. Prepsters are not teetering at grave’s edge. That prep year is a massive boost in readiness to excel at the SA.
See the Class of 2028 profile:
Class Portrait page for Admissions at USNA.edu. Updated Tue Nov 19 04:44:57 EST 2024.
www.usna.edu
378 out of 1183 had prior college or prep.
It is, however, fully your son’s decision how much he wants to invest in the SA path, in terms of effort and focus.
At one extreme, some leave everything on the court, every cycle, and apply year after year until they age out. Some go to college and take the ROTC path, with or without scholarship, with a plan to reapply to the SA with the ROTC nom, if they earned it, to add to other noms they are applying for. Some fall in love with their college and ROTC unit and let their SA dream go, having realized they will receive a commission in a way that turned out to be their best fit. Some apply once, and fully qualified with a nom or not, if they don’t get offered an apointment, move on to another dream.
The cadets and midshipmen who attend SAs by and large are there because that is exactly where they want to be above all other places, and they did whatever it took to get in, even though most days are spent embracing the suck.