Found a great chart showing percentages/stats, etc.

USNAhopeful~2015 How do you know if you're 3 Q'd? Does that mean being an official candidate?[/QUOTE said:
You know you are triple qualified when you are medically qualified (with confirmation from DODMERB), physically qualified (pass your CFA - USNA will let you know if you didn't), and scholastically qualified (this is determined after your file goes to the board, some candidates get letters, others don't - so you may need to call admissions to ask about this). 3 Q'd is not the same thing as being an official candidate.
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sgmom said:
You know you are triple qualified when you are medically qualified (with confirmation from DODMERB), physically qualified (pass your CFA - USNA will let you know if you didn't), and scholastically qualified (this is determined after your file goes to the board, some candidates get letters, others don't - so you may need to call admissions to ask about this). 3 Q'd is not the same thing as being an official candidate.
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Can you explain what an official candidate is, Is that when you're 3Qd with a nomination? thanks.
 
DD got a letter shortly after filling out the initial application last year stating that she was an official candidate. If you have a CIS page you are an official candidate. It is the initial determination that you can continue with the application process. Looking at the chart, a large number of people that apply are deemed official candidates, but a much smaller number are 3'd, and an even smaller number are 3'd with a nom.
 
Would we still be waiting for our letters if we were only 2 Q'd? I know I was physically and medically, but I dont know academically; I have a nom. But I'm still waiting...if I wasn't would I know by now?
 
I'm triple qualified and never received a letter stating that I was board qualified. I've heard that while board qualified letters go out to many, not all of those who are board qualified actually receive one.
 
USNAhopeful~2015 said:
Would we still be waiting for our letters if we were only 2 Q'd? I know I was physically and medically, but I dont know academically; I have a nom. But I'm still waiting...if I wasn't would I know by now?
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That would depend on when you completed your application and whether or not your file has been before the board. For my DD, it was at least a couple months after her file was complete that she got a letter. I have heard from others that they never received a letter, but were told by admissions that they were qualified. In your position, I would advise you to call admissions.
 
DS got letter from CM this week informing him that he was 3Q and wished him luck. so USNA must have contacted our CM and informed him of all his nominations status
 
Okie dokie.....nice. Ours didn't even call when son was appointed.
 
OBXmom said:
I think the bottom line of each category "fully qualified offered" makes the diversity goals crystal clear. I'm shocked.
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Well the chart does clarify it, doesn't it.

We all should be shocked.

Bottom line:

If you are a fully qualified (3Q) applicant who has a nomination, the #1 factor (above all else, nothing even comes close) that will determine whether or not you get an appointment offer is the color of your skin.
 
What the chart doesn't say is does Board Qualified mean the same thing for all races?

I'm assuming it does because, given the recognized performance gap between the races, USNA could have used that to help meet their objectives but it appears they did not. (2X more white candidates BQ'd than blacks.)

If they used different criteria (to bridge the gap) then the disparity between kids with the same resume but different skin color is even greater.
 
Wow....and kind of depressing for caucasin DS, 3'qed with 2 noms, second year in a row. Oh well, it is what it is!
 
grtkidmom said:
Wow....and kind of depressing for caucasin DS, 3'qed with 2 noms, second year in a row. Oh well, it is what it is!
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For my me (my DS is 3Q with nom), I find the whole chart profoundly depressing
 
Something smells here

Maybe I've misunderstood all of this, but...
In 2013 AA male column, the % Candidates was 283.7%. Is there a reason, a candidate did not have an application?

Maybe I'm looking at this too simplistically, but I would think the rows were pretty much in order of event from App to Offer and Acceptance. Certainly there are variations, but could you be a candidate without an Application?

Please enlighten me.

dave
 
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Before this thread spins out of control...

Run the #s. Many could look at the 2014 50% # for CA and compare to the 90% # for AA.

Take the offered number for AA and reduce it down to the 50.3% offered rate for CA. It would reduce the offers by about 60. "Give" those 60 offers to the CA slate and the 50.3% rate only increases to 53.6%. Folks could argue "more qualified" CAs are losing appointments to lessor, but still fully qualified AAs but it is not a large #.

I would imagine that a good portion of those 60 "extra" AA slots are likely for football players, not because they are AA. I would also bet a decent chunk of those 60 are "more diversified" candidates who would make a better diversified class are also lower income, single parent, and other factors that show an applicant has overcome significant obstacles to get accepted into the USNA for many reasons other than race.

I am not shocked by the numbers, nor am I alarmed by them either.
 
Luigi59 said:
Well the chart does clarify it, doesn't it.

We all should be shocked.

Bottom line:

If you are a fully qualified (3Q) applicant who has a nomination, the #1 factor (above all else, nothing even comes close) that will determine whether or not you get an appointment offer is the color of your skin.
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I totally agree. I really wish that the entire process was a blind process, but unfortunately that's not the reality of the situation.
 
bpu said:
I am not shocked by the numbers, nor am I alarmed by them either.
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I am the complete opposite in this case. I was both shocked and alarmed when I first saw those statistics. I knew that the Academy has been pushing to create more diversity, but I was not expecting to this extent. What is alarming about this situation, as others have stated before, is the main factor for getting in once you are deemed 3q'd and have a nom is the color of your skin. As the statistics show, if you are a fully qualified African-American female then your chances of getting in range from 97% to 100%. However, if you are a caucasian male then your chances of getting in drop to below 50%. If we lived in a truly equal world, then the percentages of Fully Qualified Candidates offered would be the same across the board.

Needless to say, my optimism about getting in significantly dropped after I viewed those stats.
 
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