Gitmo Tribunals?

Just set up an appointment for them to come see me. Thanks! :smile:



Now............. about your sister.... :shake:
 
Ok. They'll be there at 0800. Hey, my sister does look like mz big lips. (If I knocked 15 lbs off her butt & used my air compressor to fill up her lips). Yep, she looks just like her. Uh. I have money. I could pay you to take her off into the sunset. :D She might be Army but I can still take her.
 
LOL!

What I meant was that I had just set up an appointment with them. They should be here any day now. :wink:

So you'd pay me to take her off your hands, eh? Why is she on YOUR hands? :confused:

Army, eh? Occifer or a real soldier? :wink:
 
Hey, don't hijack this thread. I'm working on my response to the PhD thesis above.
 
:yllol:

Hey! We're talking about lawns and hooking up here! The turds at Gitmo can wait! :wink:
 
USNA69,

Serious question. Please cure my ignorance as much as you can without revealing anything hush-hush....

What techniques exist short of torture that are considered effective at getting accurate information out of a turd, er... terrorist, in a reasonable time?

Perhaps if I had a better understanding of the alternatives, then I could see this differently. You have more experience in this than I do, no matter how old it may be, so I'll certainly listen.

Thanks. :smile:
 
I don't think there is anything hush-hush about the Viet Nam war anymore. I ran a team which electronically monitored infiltration along the Cambodian border into the Delta. Fortunately/unfortunately a claymore ambush by a SEAL team left very few prisoners. In typical warfare, very few prisoners have valuable tactical knowledge that we must obtain to save lives which might justify torture. Heck, we knew more about what the VC "mules" were doing than they did. An effective ground sensor pattern along a trail could ascertain how fast they were moving and how many there were. A team would work a specific part of the trail continuously and they were very predictable. After a while we knew what team was on which trail each night. What few prisoners we captured were seriously wounded and eventually turned over to AID (read Neil Sheehan's A Bright and Shining Lie about John Paul Vann to see "AID" involvement in South Vietnam). The US ran no torture camps in the jungle. "AID" moved into a village, gave them a few tractors, brought in improved rice seed, and, in the process found people more than willing to talk about VC activity in the area. The first rule of an insurgent warfare, which we have forgotten since Vietnam is to win the hearts and minds of the people. We were moderately successful in Vietnam. I would venture to say that AID in Vietnam was much more successful in gathering valuable long-term intelligence than a wholesale Administration declaration that the Geneval Convention no longer applies. We should listen to our young (Harrison), if torture is necessary, at least be discreet and secretive about it.
 
I can certainly live with that. Discretion is always smarter in these matters.

I do believe we're doing more hearts-and-minds stuff than you make it sound, though. I'll admit I have no yardstick to personally compare against.
 
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