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14USC1 is a good reference too. They are because Congress said they were almost a century ago... Doing "military things" before the Air Force was a twinkle in its Army daddy's eye.
Neither is having a .mil e-mail address but I digress.
Full text of the bill as passed by both House and Senate
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H.R.3210 -- Pay Our Military Act (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] - ENR)
--H.R.3210--
H.R.3210
One Hundred Thirteenth Congress
of the
United States of America
AT THE FIRST SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Thursday,
the third day of January, two thousand and thirteen
An Act
Making continuing appropriations for military pay in the event of a Government shutdown.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Pay Our Military Act'.
SEC. 2. CONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES.
(a) In General- There are hereby appropriated for fiscal year 2014, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, for any period during which interim or full-year appropriations for fiscal year 2014 are not in effect--
(1) such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to members of the Armed Forces (as defined in section 101(a)(4) of title 10, United States Code), including reserve components thereof, who perform active service during such period;
I think this is one of the reasons that USMMA was shutdown. Even though they are a reserve component (of the Navy), they do not perform active service whilst they are midshipmen. Do mids get paid btw?
I hope something is done soon, KP is on a tight enough academic schedule under the trimester system.
Midshipmen do not get paid at the USMMA.
They do get paid as cadets during sea year.
Is that considered "drill" or what? What status are they in during sea year? Or is it a non-military pay?
Do mids get paid btw?
I am suprised that you did not know the answer to this after all the time you have spent on this forum.
I think this is one of the reasons that USMMA was shutdown. Even though they are a reserve component (of the Navy), they do not perform active service whilst they are midshipmen. Do mids get paid btw?
I hope something is done soon, KP is on a tight enough academic schedule under the trimester system.
We actually move cargo for the military... as opposed to go on fun helicopter and boat rides in the summer.
I've already called.
I was told specifically by my Congressman's office that "even though it is not under the DoD, the Coast Guard Academy is a military academy and USMMA is not."
You need to inform your Congressman that every graduate of the USMMA is commissioned as an Officer in the U.S. Armed Forces and has a service obligation to serve in the military for five years active duty or eight years in the reserves.
It also may have been beneficial for him to have been at the Academy last month to witness the Plebe class being sworn in by Navy Vice Admiral Robin Braun and hear them say the words "I solemnly swear I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic..."
I have a feeling that if the coast guard academy where still under the transportation dept we wouldn't be dealing with closure of Usmma because both would have been funded.
Then she would be lying to her Congressman, because those aren't true service commitments you're quoting.
Pay the military bill didn't exclude reserves. We have a reserve UTA weekend going on at my AF base this weekend. Under Total force integration congress mandated the merging of many active duty and reserve operations.
The question of who pays them while on sea duty doesn't matter. The school produces a commissioned officer. Better question would be are ROTC programs and other commissioning programs open during this slowdown.
I have a feeling that if the coast guard academy where still under the transportation dept we wouldn't be dealing with closure of Usmma because both would have been funded.
You need to inform your Congressman that every graduate of the USMMA is commissioned as an Officer in the U.S. Armed Forces and has a service obligation to serve in the military for five years active duty or eight years in the reserves.
as you know Kings Point is funded by the DoT through MARAD for a college education. ROTC is funded as you know by the DoD to have military science classes to educate midshipman and cadets. Your argument is only good if Kings Point kept the department of naval science open and all midshipman just attended naval science class. The Navy does not find Kings Point. Midshipman do not receive a NROTC scholarship. Two complete different funding sources with two complete different goals.
It is an interesting relationship. While they are funded by the DoT, they have a service obligation upon graduation to the DoD.