Greystone Self prep., vs other self-preps

Jetbill

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DS has self-preped at NWP this year, and still awaiting possible USAFA decision. (USMA no nom, USCGA declined). We are working a plan B at this point, and strongly considering MMI for a 2nd year of prep. (Self or Sponsored if offered). However, we would like to consider Greystone as well, because he can do their SAP program AND ROTC simultaneously. And will help him get 3 yr ROTC Scholarship if 3rd attempt at SA appointment were to require plan B again.
I'm finding it difficult to gain insight from people with Greystone experience. His first choice is USAFA and Greystone doesn't seem to have a direct relationship with them. (Greystone is part of University of the Ozarks). Any straight-forward advice, (pros and cons) would be gratefully appreciated.
My son is pretty well qualified, MOC Nom for USAFA, and won't turn 19 until late July, so he's young for his 2nd attempt at appointment currently.
 
MMI does have AFROTC at the unit at the University of Alabama. His courses at MMI will earn college credit and he can transfer credit in.
 

MMI does have AFROTC at the unit at the University of Alabama. His courses at MMI will earn college credit and he can transfer credit in.
Thanks for your response.... It's my understanding that at MMI he would need to choose between the SAP program, and the AFROTC program. Whereas at Greystone, supposedly, they combine SAP and ROTC, as the SAP portion has no military drill/uniforms. Just on ROTC days.... (army....but first yr the same and transferable to AFROTC). Wondering what kind of success Greystone/University of Ozarks has with this program? Both SA appointments and with "helping" kids get 3 yr AFROTC scholarships (plan B).
 
All students at MMI have to enroll in either Army or Air Force ROTC. Students who are SAP and list Air Force as their primary academy may enroll in AFROTC. SAP and ROTC are not exclusive to each other. In addition, we have several students who are not in SAP applying for academies.

If he needs an intense academic environment Greystone may be the right choice. If he needs to be immersed in an academy environment with all that entails, keep looking at the Military Junior Colleges.

All said, any of the Falcon Foundation schools will give him a good prep year. If they didn't, they wouldn't be on the list!

Best of luck to you all.
 
Interesting. Maybe I misunderstood LTC Bowen at MMI when I recently spoke with him? I was under the impression he had to decide between the SAP and AFROTC. Although, he did say many do apply for SA, out of each. I probably ought to call him again for clarification. I think it would make sense for him to get the 1st year of AFROTC under his belt, but I was also told the SAP program at MMI more closely aligns with SA academics. I like the idea of him getting both, so hopefully he CAN do that at MMI as well. (FYI LTC Bowen was very helpful, and accommodating! If anyone out there has questions....just Call and ask for him)
Thank again for your input!
 
I see this discussion come up every year and do not feel that we ever have an accurate picture of how successful self-prep is at these schools. They absolutely do serve a need and can be very beneficial to some kids but I would imagine most of theses kids would have been just as successful attending a four year college. You mentioned that he is very young so the year of prep was probably helpful but I would tell you it is now time to move off to a real college. If the Air Force is what he wants, find a school with AFROTC, enroll as a freshman, take a STEM based course load similar to the service academy and join and become active in the AFROTC detachment. This will also open up another nomination option for ROTC. If he works hard and does well in school he can earn a campus based ROTC scholarship if he reapplication is not successful.
 
I see this discussion come up every year and do not feel that we ever have an accurate picture of how successful self-prep is at these schools. They absolutely do serve a need and can be very beneficial to some kids but I would imagine most of theses kids would have been just as successful attending a four year college. You mentioned that he is very young so the year of prep was probably helpful but I would tell you it is now time to move off to a real college. If the Air Force is what he wants, find a school with AFROTC, enroll as a freshman, take a STEM based course load similar to the service academy and join and become active in the AFROTC detachment. This will also open up another nomination option for ROTC. If he works hard and does well in school he can earn a campus based ROTC scholarship if he reapplication is not successful.
This^^^^^
Move on to a real 4yr university if he doesn’t receive an appointment to USAFA or a prep school offer from USAF, enough with the self prep, another year isn’t going to help his chances.
 
Greystone has been affiliated with a couple other Universities before landing at Ozarks. They seem to move with the wind and have never developed a strong, positive reputation. That is just my observation over the years.

Stealth_81
 
I’m shocked when I see a moderator write untruths about a program. Greystone has been involved with ONE other school before moving to the University of the Ozarks! We were at our old school for 16 years. We purposely moved to University of the Ozarks due to the other school cost.

Let’s focus on how well our students from last year are performing at the academies. Those at USAFA and USNA HAVE AN AVERAGE 3.8 GPA. Those at West Point have a average GPA 3.6 (They were free agents last year….earned they’re appointment while attending Greystone at University of the Oazarks) All are performing well athletically and involved.

Each member of our current class has earned at least two nominations and 87% have earned their appointments. Again, these are all free agents.

Greystone has a great relationship with the different admissions teams, and frequently hear that families are told to contact Greystone for prep.

There are great prep schools out there. Students and families need to check them all out. Ask the right questions and make decisions best for their families.
 
Greystone has been affiliated with a couple other Universities before landing at Ozarks. They seem to move with the wind and have never developed a strong, positive reputation. That is just my observation over the years.

Stealth_81
From my knowledge of Greystone, they have only been at 2 different universities since their existence. Curious why you say they "move like the wind".
 
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