Discussion in 'Air Force Academy - USAFA' started by PaulGJ, Jan 16, 2011.
How severe is the hazing at the Air Force academy compared to the Naval Academy?
Silly question. Sorry if you think I'm not taking the question seriously. Actually,,,,,, I'm not. Sorry.
It is possible that s/he really doesn't understand BCT or Doolie year and is seeking clarification. A high school junior might not realize the negative connotation of using the term "hazing" in reference to life at the USAFA/USNA.
This could be a more beneficial question:
Could someone specify with examples of what crosses the line of actual hazing and "regular orders from the upper class men at the academies"?
There isn’t hazing at the academies. The have rules, that are strict at times, but nobody is getting hazed. All I know at AFA is that they have to do things like walk on the right side of the hallway, or on a line? not sure about that one, they carry their bags with their left hand, those kind of things (which may not be fully accurate, because I am not at the academy as my username states, so correct me if they aren’t).
If you want a real answer, do some searching on this forum, and on the internet, its not a difficult thing to find out if you spend a little time.
The answer to your question is simple. The severity of hazing at USAFA compared to USNA is the same - both service academies have zero hazing and neither institutions tolerate any hazing. Not sure where you are getting the idea that any service academies tolerate hazing.
The way I see it, you want to go into the military, so who cares how hard it can get. It is the military. You are an active role player in war and violence. You need to be ready to withstand some hardships. You want to go to the Academy? Well you need to be in an elite group of people. You will give up some aspects of normal life. Be prepared for some hardships in any of the academies. Some of the stuff that goes on could be considered hazing at some schools, but people at those schools aren't going to be fighting in wars and defending our country.
When you get to the Academy, you will probably think that everything that happens is hazing, but the longer I have been here (although hard to say right now), I can honestly say that there is a ton of thought that goes into training. Except in a few rare cases, the training is always meant to benefit you in some way (I still sometimes have trouble finding that exact purpose, but I know it will be worth it). Just as everyone is looking forward to recognition (as we should be), being recognized is not about the 3 day event in March, it is about the 9 months of training that we have been through. Without that training those 3 days would be worth nothing. Without hard work, there is no reward. So in short, there is no hazing, there is only training to earn a greater reward.
Actual hazing is very rare, and usually punished appropriately. What most people see as "hazing" is either very tough training or training where they don't understand the purpose.
Sometimes training programs' purposes are not explained well or connected well with the actual methods. These are usually where most complaints come from.
This explains part of things well, IMO.
Separate names with a comma.