Discussion in 'Coast Guard Academy - USCGA' started by Tmamon, Oct 9, 2016.
I saw on calendar that 2017 R day was July 3.
The calendar says that dates after 2016 are for planning purposes and subject to change ... the cadets applicant letter in bears den says 6/26
P.S. Keep these important dates in mind as you complete your application:
October 15th - Early Action Application Deadline
By December 24th - Early Action Decisions Published
January 15th - Regular Admission (Final) Application Deadline
By April 1st - Regular Admission Decisions Published
April 15th - DoDMERB Medical Examination Deadline
May 1st - Appointment Acceptance/Declination Deadline
May 15th - DoDMERB Medical Qualification/Waiver Deadline
June 1st - Accession Paperwork/Requirements Deadline
June 26th - Reporting-In Day for the Class of 2021
Weight can be a tricky issue, but it can be overcome. I haven't been on the forums since we left for R-Day with my DS.
Time to start giving back some advice and support as I was given. I posted many questions on here regarding my sons weight and fitness scores. It was a close one, but he dodged a few bullets early on. Following is my story, hope it helps some of you.
My son played football as a lineman in high school. He was heavy because of it, well that and because he liked to eat and hated to run. At 5'11, 221#, he did not meet standards for Height / Weight. His doc taped him, not sure if it was done right as there is some variability if the tape isn't placed exactly in the right locations. Either way, he did just make the BMI standards to get in as a swab. He was one of the hard working and lucky kids to be offered a spot in the class of 2020, after about 3 weeks of agonizing torture to his parents, he signed his acceptance.
Although I constantly warned him and tried to convince him of the need to drop weight and get fit, it seems he just didn't care.
On R-Day he was still about the same weight. We said goodbye in the morning as he was whisked away with his new company. His mother and I attended parent events that morning while anticipating a chance to see him swear his oath later that afternoon. At lunch I mentioned under my breath to his mother that I hope he makes weight as there are cases every year where swabs are sent home on RDay.... she didn't know this and was upset that I mentioned it!! No more than 15 minutes after stating that, my cell phone rings.... call from New London, CT! My heart jumped as I answered it. "Hello, Mr. Ludwig? Your son is fine, but there is a problem and we need to speak with you".
Ugh, my heart sank, I knew what it was about.
An hour later we were in the counselors office when our son was escorted in, looking worse than I have ever seen him look, head shaved, sour face, looking beaten down.... it had only been a few hours, how could he crumple that fast?
We were advised that he did not meet height / weight standards and might not be allowed to join his swab class and could be sent home. From the look on his face, that would have been just fine with him, he clearly hated it so far. She informed us that He was going to be taped later that day to see if he can stay. We said a curt goodbye "love you son" and he was escorted back out to rejoin his company. At first I wondered why do all that before taping him, then I realized they were scaring him to let him know just how serious they take this, so if he does pass the taping he would understand he was on the bubble.
So his mother and I suffered 2 hours of anguish waiting to hear...
Finally, my phone rang again, New London, CT.... "Hello, Mr. Ludwig? Your son made weight and will be allowed to stay".
What a huge relief with high 5s to a few other parents we shared our fears with....
Damn that Boy!!! Heart attack Kid!
When we saw him later that afternoon he looked even worse and there was no doubt he was ready to quit, that's another story I will save for later.
So he barely made BMI. His first fit test he only scored 137 points! If he was under 135 points, they send you home!! For such a high achieving young man, we were sad, mad, disappointed, and hopeful.... but he really screwed up by not being ready, he knows it now, but I don't think there was anything we could have done to change it. I am sure that is a big part of his unhappiness the first month of swab summer. He was singled out and they focused on him, making him get fit, the cadre were phenomenal and he loves them all now, they rode him hard! But there isn't much you can do as a parent, it is up to your child to take ownership of their fitness.
By the end of 4 weeks he was up to 168 points on the fit test. Then 197 points, and within 2 weeks of classes starting, he had dropped over 30 pounds, scored 220 points on the fit test and was feeling the greatest sense of accomplishment of his life.
His laziness almost cost him his spot in his class, and he absolutely loves the academy experience now.
The ride for his parents was horrible!!! 4 weeks of gut wrenching, more to that story some other time.
The end result is a happy, well adjusted, fit and confident young man.... hang in there!!
What is the proper way to tape a female?
Measure the neck circumference at a point just below the larynx (Adam's Apple) and perpendicular to the long axis of the neck. (Do not place the tape measure over the Adam's Apple.) Member should look straight ahead during measurement, with shoulders down (not hunched). Care should be taken so as not to involve the shoulder/neck muscles (trapezius) in the measurement.
2 Round neck measurement up to the nearest 1/2 inch (e.g., round 16 1/4 inches to 16 1/2 inches).
Measure the natural waist circumference, against the skin, at the point of minimal abdominal circumference, usually located about halfway between the navel and the lower end of the sternum (breast bone). Be sure that the tape is level and parallel to the floor. The service member’s arms must be at the sides. Take measurements at the end of member’s normal relaxed exhalation. Member will not hold breath during measurements.
2 Round the natural waist measurement down to the nearest 1/2 inch (e.g., round 28 5/8 inches to 28 1/2 inches).
3 Measure the hip circumference while facing the member's right side by placing the tape around the hips so that it passes over the greatest protrusion of the gluteal muscles (buttocks) as viewed from the side. Make sure the tape is level and parallel to the floor. Apply sufficient tension to tension-tape to minimize the effect of clothing.
4 Round the hip measurement down to the nearest 1/2 inch. (e.g., round 44 3/8 inches to 44 inches).
5 Determine the circumference value by: • adding the waist and buttocks measurement, and • subtracting the neck measurement. Example: If the neck measurement is 12 inches and the waist and buttock measurement are 24 and 36 inches respectively, the circumference value will be 48.0 (24.0+36.0-12.0=48.0).
6 Compare this value against the height measurement in the percent fat estimation chart (enclosure 2), to determine the estimated body fat percentage. Example: If the circumference value is 48.0 and the height of the member is 60.0, the body fat percentage will be 22.
We are all in this mess together ... Hope to see you at RDay and again at graduation in 2021!
My DS was told by his coach he must make 22% body fat. By R-day then a waiver could be given for height weight.
What is his % now?
I put on 7 pounds during USAF Boot Camp as did some of the other thin guys. It seemed pretty common those of us on the light-side border line actually went up. Was it due to gaining additional muscle or the 3 glasses of water we had to chug before each and every meal (scorcher in August down in San Antonio) who knows. I think once you're there it's ok. The body weight will fluctuate due to many reasons (exercise, stress, diet change, sleeping habits, etc) and they know that.
What about recruited line backers for the football team. Do they turn a blind eye to the fact they are over weight much more than you!
while the recruited LB or DL or upper weight wrestler may be beyond the 6'1" / 208lbs max for example - they can also be on the tape measure test and have a 18" neck and a 40" waist and still be at 22%
Unlike DI service academies, the CGA does not offer waivers for any recruited athletes in regards to height and weight.
First I want to thank everyone for all the information on this forum this is very helpful to us parents that are new to this process. It is also nice to know that many of us are going thru the same things. My DS is a recruited athlete. He turned down a couple DI offers to attend CGA, because it has always been one of his top two choices, and upon getting his LOA, CGA became his #1 by far. The D1 schools wanted him to be 300. So he played this past season at 290. As of this morning he is 256, with 24% BF. Thru EA he was granted a conditional apt. In the meantime he has been receiving calls from other college coaches expressing their interest. I have to give my DS credit he is very honest with them and is still honoring his commitment to CGA. As a worried parent the question I have is: with regard to the height/weight which he currently doesn't meet. Is he supposed to wait until he reaches 22% to return the paper work for height/weight or is he supposed to turn it in as he is now, in hopes of receiving a waiver until R-Day?
We are in a similar boat. He needs to meet the tape measurements on R day. That is what I was told. My DS will never make the weight but currently is making tape. Does he make tape?
Tape he is 24.4% so not yet... but should if he gets until R-Day
When getting tape measured. Do they measure the wrist to get to proper frame?
They did not have us measure the wrist to get his waiver. I don't know if they do a wrist measurement on R day. At AIM they did speak of the wrist measurement.
here is the latest spec i can find
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