Help please!! SMP

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Lordrahl

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Hello, everyone
I have a few major questions that I am having a really hard time getting answers to.

First off, as an army reservist wanting to do the SMP, do I still have a chance at AD??? I have been told that the program has changed and that all SMP cadets are now locked into either their guard or reserve postition.

If this is the case is there anyway around it? I go to basic training March 3rd and if I am locked into reserves with no chance of AD, then I am seriously debating my decision to go to basic.

I live in Illinois if that helps at all. Please any help would be appreciated.
 
It depends on the state and may also depend on what monies you take while in SMP. Your best bet is to contact the appropriate authorities in your state for a definitive answer.
 
I am also curious if this is officially or unofficially the case. My SMP cadet applied for AD, but was designated USAR, even to the surprise of his cadre. I do not know if this was the case for every SMP in his battalion, but there were several others that requested/were denied AD. BTW he was non-scholarship and never took any TA either.
 
This is currently posted on the CU Boulder AROTC Facebook page:
Sgt-Robert Britt
November 19, 2014 at 3:49pm
Simultaneous Membership Program (SMP) The Simultaneous Membership P...rogram allows you to attend Army ROTC and serve in the U.S. Army Reserve at the same time. It gives you an opportunity for additional training and experience. Cadets serve as officer trainees in the Army Reserve while completing college. You can earn Army Reserve pay and benefits in addition to your Army ROTC allowances. For cadets whose goal is to become an active duty officer, SMP offers that route, unlike GRFD* (Active Duty is no longer an option upon acceptance of these scholarships).http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/become-an-officer/becoming-an-army-officer.html
 
Reserves can still compete in the OML. If you're under a GRFD or DEDNG scholarship, you're stuck in the guard/reserves.
 
I am in the Guard and an SMP member..... I received AD for this year. No one really knows how they assess you and how they determine AD or Reserve forces duty. I ADSOed for Branch and Post and received both, as such my contract shows I will serve for 9 years AD. I was good enough to get AD anyway, but little things like that might entice the AD to want an SMP CDT more.
Things to do:
1. Find out how your state/program will work with being an SMP CDT. Also find out if the cadre at the school you are going to will make sure a slot is left open for you to contract....in my BN we went from 50 something slots a year for 4 schools down to 27ish slots a year.
2. Go to BCT and AIT
3. Come back and contract
4. Do all required CDT activities
5. Assess
6. Graduate as an officer

If you have any more questions PM me... hope this helped.
 
kinnem said:
It depends on the state and may also depend on what monies you take while in SMP. Your best bet is to contact the appropriate authorities in your state for a definitive answer.
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This....... Don't rely on a post here. It now seems to be different now for different states, regardless of if you take scholarship money or not. When folks ask about SMP here is one of many informative post. Unfortunately the down side in this thread so explore all side....
Here are portions of a post from scoutmaster:
Ds is a national guard soldier and a non scholarship ms2, he will be eligible for contracting after this fall semester, PMS is telling us he may not be able to compete for an active duty slot when the time comes due to CC assigning him a gfrd( spelling) control number. WHAT????!!! I am flipping my lid right now. Someone please tell me this is not the case, because this was how my son got recruited into the guard in the first place, by the previous PMS and guard recruiter. Please talk me back off the ledge!! Ds has worked so hard to make this happen with no debt and all he wants is a chance to compete for an active slot he is 3.5gpa and 295 pt score.
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The whole thread here:
http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/smp-changes.40185/

My DS was blessed SMP worked out for him but now things are changing fast.
 
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You'll also find PMS's that may say one thing about SMP/GRFD/Guard that may not entirely be true, it can be confusing and some are new and simply don't understand all of the different paths, contracts, etc. My PMS was the first to admit he knew very little about the Guard and our ROO and HRT were the go to folks for those questions because that is their specialty. Definitely check with those at the ROTC unit, even before the Guard recruiter, they'll have the best info as it pertains to your situation, their school, state, and brigade.

(You and Your not being directed at any specific person.)
 
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