High school dual-enrolled 54 college credits and ROTC 4-year scholarship

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My son had been attending community college since freshman of his high school and has earned 54 credits towards his Associate in Math and Science. The high school does not offer AP/IB just the dual-enroll program. He graduates high school this May and is considered a freshman applicant in colleges he applied to.

But for ROTC, is this a negative for him from a 4-year ROTC scholarship standpoint? He's Board Ready but had a Yellow alert saying "not freshman".
 
Candd82026 said:
My son had been attending community college since freshman of his high school and has earned 54 credits towards his Associate in Math and Science. The high school does not offer AP/IB just the dual-enroll program. He graduates high school this May and is considered a freshman applicant in colleges he applied to.

But for ROTC, is this a negative for him from a 4-year ROTC scholarship standpoint? He's Board Ready but had a Yellow alert saying "not freshman".
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Is this Navy or Army or?
 
Candd82026 said:
My son had been attending community college since freshman of his high school and has earned 54 credits towards his Associate in Math and Science. The high school does not offer AP/IB just the dual-enroll program. He graduates high school this May and is considered a freshman applicant in colleges he applied to.

But for ROTC, is this a negative for him from a 4-year ROTC scholarship standpoint? He's Board Ready but had a Yellow alert saying "not freshman".
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DD found herself in a similar situation. 16 years old with an Associate degree and ineligible for NROTC. The scholarship is only available to college freshmen who have not completed more than 30 college credit hours (AP course credits, etc. do not count towards the 30).
 
Trainer said:
DD found herself in a similar situation. 16 years old with an Associate degree and ineligible for NROTC. The scholarship is only available to college freshmen who have not completed more than 30 college credit hours (AP course credits, etc. do not count towards the 30).
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That's true, but I thought not all schools transfer/accept community college credits.

Anyway, his status showed Boarded now. It's Army ROTC, forgot to mention earlier.
 
Candd82026 said:
It's Army.

My son said his status was changed to Boarded today. The 'requires education waiver' field showed White, it was Yellow before.

Is that a good sign?
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It's a step in the right direction. Boarded and needing a waiver is better than an alert. But, that's as far as my knowledge goes in regard to this.
 
Heatherg21 said:
It's a step in the right direction. Boarded and needing a waiver is better than an alert. But, that's as far as my knowledge goes in regard to this.
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Thank you. I thought so too, they didn't outright reject his application.

I was consoling my son. He felt it was a mistake to get the college credits. I said, no. You learned from it and earned it, it's not time wasted. Maybe it disqualifies you here, but I'm sure your good efforts will be recognized somewhere else.
 
My son who is class of 25 at USNA received his associates degree from CC prior to graduating high school. He had 72 credits. We had similar concerns when going through the process. He received an AROTC scholarship that he declined once he had all his ducks in a row for USNA. I THINK the only issue you will run into if he gets it, is that he will have to complete military obligations quicker than his pier group due to him having extra credits and likely graduating sooner. I would ask these questions directly to the school once he has this.

Best of luck!
 
I guess it also depends on the school. My son graduated HS with his associates degree. About 60 credits transferred, but at VMI you're considered a freshman your first year regardless. So the number of credits didn't affect his AROTC scholarship.
 
My dd is class of 2024 AFROTC scholarship. She had 40 something university dual-enrollment credits, which all transferred to her current university. College credits earned in HS did not count against her for ROTC consideration. Upon entering her ROTC unit, she informed them that she had the college credits and asked about early graduation; her commander said he had previous candidates with college credits that were not successful in graduating early and she wouldn't either. OK. Fast forward to this year. New commander acknowledged she had enough credits to graduate (she could have graduated after this past semester); but she doesn't have the ROTC military credits fulfilled. She will double up this semester and next semester to complete those. Herein lies the problem: she turns 21 in June and won't have enough credits to be considered a full-time student. Her scholarship pays for "necessary credits" and won't pay for "unnecessary credits" to get to full-time status. Because she will not be a full-time student, she will lose access to our family health care policy and will have to get one of her own or pay to add to ours. Just a consideration for others following. It might not be worth it to transfer all the credits towards the degree or to wait and transfer them later.
 
My DS had 35 hrs dual credit as an in-coming freshman and earned an AFROTC scholarship. I know different branch, but it has allowed him to not have to take as many credits per semester which has been a blessing.
 
Thank you everyone for describing your experiences. It's helpful to us who are just starting on this path that you've already passed thru before.
Hopefully, my son will see "Winner" the next time he checks his AROTC application status. Then we'll cross the issue of credits and early grad issue at that point.
He doesn't mind doing his military obligations sooner - he wanted to branch Cyber with Computer Engineering major. Although he also wanted to do post-grad studies if he could.

As for health insurance, I believe the "Obama Care" law allowed children to be included in parents insurance by age not by status. @HawkeyeMom may want to check your insurance, your child does not have to be a full-time student to stay with your health insurance.
www.dol.gov

Young Adults and the Affordable Care Act: Protecting Young Adults and Eliminating Burdens on Businesses and Families FAQs

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Candd82026 said:
Thank you everyone for describing your experiences. It's helpful to us who are just starting on this path that you've already passed thru before.
Hopefully, my son will see "Winner" the next time he checks his AROTC application status. Then we'll cross the issue of credits and early grad issue at that point.
He doesn't mind doing his military obligations sooner - he wanted to branch Cyber with Computer Engineering major. Although he also wanted to do post-grad studies if he could.

As for health insurance, I believe the "Obama Care" law allowed children to be included in parents insurance by age not by status. @HawkeyeMom may want to check your insurance, your child does not have to be a full-time student to stay with your health insurance.
www.dol.gov

Young Adults and the Affordable Care Act: Protecting Young Adults and Eliminating Burdens on Businesses and Families FAQs

www.dol.gov www.dol.gov
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Yes, I am aware of that. She is essentially "free" with the other kids and has to pay a premium to extend beyond age 21- we've already received the notification from Tricare and been through it with one other child. A student does not have to maintain full-time status before age 21 to stay on the health insurance policy, b/n 21-23 a student is allowed to stay on if full-time, after 23 you have to purchase (or if 21 and not full-time).
 
HawkeyeMom said:
Yes, I am aware of that. She is essentially "free" with the other kids and has to pay a premium to extend beyond age 21- we've already received the notification from Tricare and been through it with one other child. A student does not have to maintain full-time status before age 21 to stay on the health insurance policy, b/n 21-23 a student is allowed to stay on if full-time, after 23 you have to purchase (or if 21 and not full-time).
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Oh, it's Tricare. That's interesting, I've only been made aware of Tricare because of my son who's USMA 2026. I thought the Healthcare Law would have applied everywhere.

I have a brother who's working daughter (college grad) aged 25 is still on his insurance because of better coverage and no extra premium. She would have paid a monthly premium if she took her work insurance. She'd be aged out soon though, but saved a bit for a few years.
 
Candd82026 said:
Oh, it's Tricare. That's interesting, I've only been made aware of Tricare because of my son who's USMA 2026. I thought the Healthcare Law would have applied everywhere.

I have a brother who's working daughter (college grad) aged 25 is still on his insurance because of better coverage and no extra premium. She would have paid a monthly premium if she took her work insurance. She'd be aged out soon though, but saved a bit for a few years.
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Candd82026 said:
Thank you. I thought so too, they didn't outright reject his application.

I was consoling my son. He felt it was a mistake to get the college credits. I said, no. You learned from it and earned it, it's not time wasted. Maybe it disqualifies you here, but I'm sure your good efforts will be recognized somewhere else.
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I knew someone in a similar situation. He went to college for two years and finished his bachelors. Then he enlisted in the Army with a degree and went in as an E4 (SPC) and then went to OCS for a few months and became a 2nd LT. At the end it was the same result as four years of ROTC.
 
Candd82026 said:
Oh, it's Tricare. That's interesting, I've only been made aware of Tricare because of my son who's USMA 2026. I thought the Healthcare Law would have applied everywhere.

I have a brother who's working daughter (college grad) aged 25 is still on his insurance because of better coverage and no extra premium. She would have paid a monthly premium if she took her work insurance. She'd be aged out soon though, but saved a bit for a few years.
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I’m surprised the coverage doesn’t continue too. Interesting lesson about Tricare. My 23-year old working daughter still has medical coverage on my husband’s plan and I anticipate she will continue to until she’s booted off when she turns 26. Her employer only provides a premium stipend for her to purchase her own insurance. My husband’s company did not allow her to remain on their dental/vision plans once she was no longer a full-time student, however. Fortunately, my employer lets them stay on health, dental, and vision until age 26 so I was able to pick up dental and vision for her that way. My husband has better (non-HMO) medical options than I do so I was glad they couldn’t terminate that coverage once she graduated.
 
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