How can someone be committed this early?

Kabobthebob

Kabobthebob

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Hello all,

I recently say someone from my school and grade being congratulated on social media for being committed to the Navy for 2024 and I am very happy for them. I have never talked to this person but I know that they are very good at their sport and I believe this may be a factor. I am just wondering if this is possible because I thought that the service academies had a much lengthier admission process and people would not be able to be committed to an academy this early because they still need to go through the nomination process, that I am just starting by the way. Just want to know some of your opinions/knowledge on this.

Thank you
 
I read "committed to the Navy for 2024" and I immediately thought enlisted.

There exists the possibility that the person you heard of has entered into a Delayed Entry Program (sometimes called a Delayed Enlistment Program?). A high-school-aged person can sign some forms to get into the DEP, which says that they plan to enlist in that particular branch of the military. This also includes an agreement to report for training on some future date.

Applications for USNA class of 2024 don't even open until April 1st.
 
TECHNICALLY no one commits legally, as a contract, like they do at other colleges. There is no contract for competing. The athlete can walk away from the sport and not loose their ‘scholarship’. That person also still has to complete all the components of the application process, and be qualified, as everyone else does. The coach has a certain number of “blue chips” to use to assist an athlete that doesn’t secure a nomination. So perhaps this student is a ‘blue chip’ athlete. Seems super early to be announcing a ‘commitment’ to me. The application window hasn’t even opened. Perhaps they won’t clear medical. Doesn’t mean it’s not true. Others here will have more input. I went through this with DS, who was a recruited athlete and is a Plebe currently. He wasn’t a ‘blue chip’.

There is tons of information and discussion about all this here on the forums. Search ‘blue chip’ and/or recruited athlete.

Personally I think all the “blessed to receive my 12th offer from XXX” tweets are so annoying.... *eyeroll*

Keep working on your package, making it the best you can. Pay no attention to other “offers”. And don’t concern yourself with how that ‘commitment’ affects your chances. That’s a trap some people fall into.
 
No, I’ve seen what OP is describing on social media. I think OP is asking about people who have verbally committed to the Academy to their designated NCAA sport very early. I’ve seen a lot of these where they’d be along the lines of “I’m excited to announce my verbal commitment to (insert SA)”. I think it’s very similar to what the ivy leagues do, where the athletes commit to the application process, with them still having to apply to the school and obtain a nomination, but they’d have their coaches support in the application process. These athletes most likely gain an admission in the end. Though, I’m not 100% sure.
 
Kabobthebob said:
Hello all,

I recently say someone from my school and grade being congratulated on social media for being committed to the Navy for 2024 and I am very happy for them. I have never talked to this person but I know that they are very good at their sport and I believe this may be a factor. I am just wondering if this is possible because I thought that the service academies had a much lengthier admission process and people would not be able to be committed to an academy this early because they still need to go through the nomination process, that I am just starting by the way. Just want to know some of your opinions/knowledge on this.

Thank you
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I'm assuming that this individual made a verbal commitment to play a sport for the USNA. According to the NCAA, a "verbal commitment happens when a college-bound student-athlete verbally agrees to play sports for a college before he or she signs or is eligible to sign a National Letter of Intent. The commitment is not binding on the student-athlete or the school and can be made at any time."

I would not read too much into this social media post. As @justdoit19 just cross-posted, this individual will still need to apply and qualify after the application window opens.
 
Kabobthebob said:
Hello all,

I recently say someone from my school and grade being congratulated on social media for being committed to the Navy for 2024 and I am very happy for them. I have never talked to this person but I know that they are very good at their sport and I believe this may be a factor. I am just wondering if this is possible because I thought that the service academies had a much lengthier admission process and people would not be able to be committed to an academy this early because they still need to go through the nomination process, that I am just starting by the way. Just want to know some of your opinions/knowledge on this.

Thank you
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https://www.serviceacademyforums.co...-recruitment-process.55072/page-2#post-636360
 
DS "committed" to USNA in October, however, we knew he still had to secure a nomination and appointment. He received both and no one, including DS, has posted or shared any news on social media. We don't feel comfortable sharing this until after June 27.
 
justdoit19 said:
Personally I think all the “blessed to receive my 12th offer from XXX” tweets are so annoying.... *eyeroll*
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Took the words right out of my mouth!

FMHS-79 said:
I'm assuming that this individual made a verbal commitment to play a sport for the USNA. According to the NCAA, a "verbal commitment happens when a college-bound student-athlete verbally agrees to play sports for a college before he or she signs or is eligible to sign a National Letter of Intent. The commitment is not binding on the student-athlete or the school and can be made at any time."

I would not read too much into this social media post. As @justdoit19 just cross-posted, this individual will still need to apply and qualify after the application window opens.
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Exactly. There is no National Letter of Intent at a SA. My son took place in the signing day ceremony in Feb at his HS. He signed a document that USNA provided, but it is not a NLI. It was just something for him to sign so he could take part in the ceremony with his friends.

As far as all the 'blessed to have committed' posts/tweets go, including SA or civilian schools, look up some of these names next year. 99% of them will not attend the school they 'committed' to. Happens every year.
 
DMV1962 said:
DS "committed" to USNA in October, however, we knew he still had to secure a nomination and appointment. He received both and no one, including DS, has posted or shared any news on social media. We don't feel comfortable sharing this until after June 27.
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October is respectable at least. March, junior year, before the application even opens, is silly imo.
 
These are all the reasons why USNA doesn’t release a list or comment on recruits until I Day.
 
NavyHoops said:
These are all the reasons why USNA doesn’t release a list or comment on recruits until I Day.
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Except they do! At least unofficially. In the football program at least, by retweeting the ”blessed to receive..”, or “committed” tweets. I get they want to generate excitement for their program. And it’s also how things are done nowadays.
 
I will just say that I have never seen an actual "Tweet" - except for the text reprinted for a news article - and I feel the better for it. ;)
 
USNA does not though and as to retweeting, wouldn’t call that official.

For the OP, when someone says something like this, think of it with a big asterisk... ‘upon completion of the application, being deemed 3Q and receiving a nom.’
 
Because the Service Academies do not Red Shirt their recruits the NCAA allows the SA to recruit one year early. They must comply with all the NCAA recruiting rules however they are permitted to to do everything one full year earlier than say Alabama or Notre Dame. Which means the coaches can talk with and offer a spot on the team one year early. The recruit must do well in school, DODMERB, CFA and Nomination and if so he will be guaranteed an appointment. DS actually committed to WP during the summer between sophomore and junior years, he had a MOC nom but for whatever reason he received a Supe nom.
 
If someone said they are committed to the class of 2024 this early it most likely means they got NAPS (Naval Academy Preparatory School). The word “committed” might be a little strong because there is no guarantee they will get an appointment to the Academy, but it is highly likely.
 
No they would not have “gotten Naps”. That is yet to be determined via the application process, which opens up in April for ‘24.

These would be verbal “commits.” With a caveat of meeting all requirements for any applicant: nomination, academic and medical.

I have seen various so social media posts proclaiming their commitment to USNA. It’s not a done deal yet by far.
 
justdoit19 said:
No they would not have “gotten Naps”. That is yet to be determined via the application process, which opens up in April for ‘24.

These would be verbal “commits.” With a caveat of meeting all requirements for any applicant: nomination, academic and medical.

I have seen various so social media posts proclaiming their commitment to USNA. It’s not a done deal yet by far.
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We certainly weren't going to say anything until the appointment came. DS was of course hoping and the coach knew it was his first choice but there were too many check marks to be made to even think of making a "verbal commitment." To be honest it was scary because he was holding off plan B and praying he still would have a spot there if the appointment didn't come.

Verbal commitments are definitely misleading in the junior year IMO.
 
navymom17540 said:
We certainly weren't going to say anything until the appointment came. DS was of course hoping and the coach knew it was his first choice but there were too many check marks to be made to even think of making a "verbal commitment." To be honest it was scary because he was holding off plan B and praying he still would have a spot there if the appointment didn't come.

Verbal commitments are definitely misleading in the junior year IMO.
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Knowing what actually has to happen to set foot on the yard on IDay, I would think most would be hesitant to announce publicly to the masses that they are ‘on the roster’. Seem like an opportunity exists as a junior to have to save face.
 
Kabobthebob said:
I recently say someone from my school and grade being congratulated on social media for being committed to the Navy for 2024
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I would view this more along the lines of someone boasting/bragging on social media where all sorts of things that aren't really true might be posted. As others mentioned above, all applicants still need to be 3Q and have a NOM to be in the RUNNING for appointment. The window to apply for those haven't opened yet. Even the term 'recruited' means something different at SA's vs. civilian universities. The fact someone is being recruited is no guarantee they will get an appointment. Lots of older threads discuss that.
 
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