How many apply from each state?
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riveranduin
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Based on the number of kids I met from New York at Summer Seminar, I would be willing to bet there are quite a few. A lot more people apply from the East Coast and California than other parts of the country, but since they have to fill all those slots, many more also come from those regions as well.
I come from a competitive area and when at my MOC Nom interviews I heard that typically about 5-7 of the students from each my Senators and Representative's slates end up with appointments.
I come from a competitive area and when at my MOC Nom interviews I heard that typically about 5-7 of the students from each my Senators and Representative's slates end up with appointments.
I think that you will only find the answer to that question from the Admissions office. You state BGO might know the answer. You can find him/her at www.usna.edu/admissions/bgo
Better questions to ask, beyond simple curiousity and determining your competition, are how many applicants from your state/Congressional district completed their applications. The truth is if you go to the admissions website, open a file by answer some questions, and do nothing else, you are still considered "applied"
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Well and succinctly stated.
The reality of this process gets lost in the delusion that there are 20,000 "applicants." Unlike having a similarly high number like that for a selective secular institution, where literally all apps are completed and submitted, and most would qualify for admission if space was available ... the VAST MAJORITY of the 20,000 USNA candidates will not even complete the process and become "qualified" to compete for an appointment, in the event they do persist.
So take heart! Daunting as this can be ... and is! ... the numbers can confuse as well as clarify.
The reality of this process gets lost in the delusion that there are 20,000 "applicants." Unlike having a similarly high number like that for a selective secular institution, where literally all apps are completed and submitted, and most would qualify for admission if space was available ... the VAST MAJORITY of the 20,000 USNA candidates will not even complete the process and become "qualified" to compete for an appointment, in the event they do persist.
So take heart! Daunting as this can be ... and is! ... the numbers can confuse as well as clarify.
If you were to look at the profiles of the last few classes you would find that regardless of the number of applicants, when push comes to shove, about 6,500 of the applicants end up with nominations. Those with noms represent the bulk of the candidates who are eligible for appointments. By the way, in my humble opinion, the awarding of noms represents the first thinning of applicants. A strong case can be made that the only applicants you need to be concerned with are those on the slates with you; the rest are superfluous. Finally... focus on your candidacy and on doing whatever you must do to become the best qualified candidate YOU can become! I remember well a cross-country skiing competition a few Olympics back where the US skier got pre-occupied with the skier behind him in the stretch... every time he looked back he lost a few more yards to the other skier. Ultimately the US skier lost the race. FOCUS on what you can control.
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Ditto. I personally wouldn't call Admissions or a BGO/AC asking for this stat, unless it comes up in a casual conversation -- and even then I would be careful how you ask. You can't control who else applies and does it matter if it is 5 or 5,000? Does it change ANYTHING for you? Otherwise, the perception might seem that you have a lack of self-confidence and are coming off as desperate. My two cents.
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This really whittles this down, focuses the most frequently faced reality. Most, not all, are incompetition with the others on their MOC (and/or Senatorial) slate of nominees. Many or at least some of those not offered from these predominant slates will be then added to the "national pool" in order of the WP score. A few will be drawn from that list. Still a few others might get a SecNav, Supe, VP nom nod.
But MOST will come from those MOC/Senatorial slates beyond the others noted and those coming from the Fleet, foundation schools and NAPS. And so it is that 1964's point rings true.
Lastly, that can be very seductive, delusional, and subject to change. One year your regional slate may have 2 potential Rhodes scholars. The next none.
Thus '64's point of ...
... remains the sole thing any can do to influence his/her candidacy. The rest remain in the hands of others.
If you don't have any better use of your time, you can go back through the archives to the Class of 2016 era. There was a link to a site that did provide a graphic of applications by state. It was dated, ie, not current, so not of much use except to settle idle curiosity.