How many left in class of 2020?

DrMom said:
USNA is terribly proud of their 90% graduation rate. Compared to civilian colleges--this is a fantastic retention and four year rate.
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Would guess that when it's done, that the stats for this year (2017 grads) would follow pretty close to those of past couple of years trending up slightly:
2014......I-Day 1,247....Graduated...1,068 (86%)
2015.....I-Day 1,229....Graduated...1,070 (87%)
2016.....I-Day 1,211.....Graduated...1,076 (89%)
 
Sydney C....If you have had the opportunity to sit through an admissions brief or CVW brief--the number they are pushing is 90% in four years. It appears the admissions team is rounding up...I think for candidates who are women, minorities or prior service, it would be helpful to ask for the categorical rather than aggregated data on graduation rate. However, individuals should also be empowered to feel that they were chosen and those have it within them to succeed. With the plethora of tutoring options now available at USNA, I would want more information on those who are sent away for academic reasons.
 
When my plebe pulled up grades over break, I thought I saw a class size of around 1057 or something like that noted somewhere on his portal. But I could be wrong. That type was very small and he didn't linger long on any of the tabs....:)
 
Brawny77 said:
As my DS and I walked up to the report area on I day there was this kid and his parents (I guess they were his parents) sitting a little way off on a bench. They caught my eye because the kid looked really distressed and both parents looked pissed off. I heard the kid say "I just don't know". I just walked quickly by to try and stay out of their business but I thought to myself that this really wasn't for everyone and I also wonder if that kid went in
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A kid going because of parental pressure and/or the surrounding hoopla is one of the chancier things, and one of the saddest is the kid who doesn't really want it getting carried away with the momentum of the admissions process and ensuing celebrations. It can be very hard for a kid like that to go home at the end of plebe summer. Our local alumni group for USMA gave a program for appointees in May a few years ago, and at one point, got kids in one room, parents in another, and told the kids, "If you want a medical excuse to get off this train, find one of us".
 
Brawny77 said:
As my DS and I walked up to the report area on I day there was this kid and his parents (I guess they were his parents) sitting a little way off on a bench. They caught my eye because the kid looked really distressed and both parents looked pissed off. I heard the kid say "I just don't know". I just walked quickly by to try and stay out of their business but I thought to myself that this really wasn't for everyone and I also wonder if that kid went in
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It could be one of those candidates who received the TWE at the last minute after being waitlisted for months. He and his parents showed up on I day hoping they can plead their case to the Supe, Dant or Admissions, but got turned away.
 
ktnatalk said:
It could be one of those candidates who received the TWE at the last minute after being waitlisted for months. He and his parents showed up on I day hoping they can plead their case to the Supe, Dant or Admissions, but got turned away.
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I had not thought of that but you are right. That is a possibility. I just caught a snip of their conversation as I hurried by.
 
That is an awful a lot of plebes quitting, I'm sure they are a lot of kids that would have given an eye to attend USNA 2020.
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There is no basis for believing that those who didn't receive appointments were any more likely to stay than those who did.

The #1 reason for attrition today is the mid wants to leave. #2 is failing the 1.5 mile run. Very, very few leave for academic reasons today -- essentially, if you're committed to staying, you will.

There is occasionally an unsuccessful candidate who shows up on I-Day hoping to take the place of an appointed candidate who didn't show (it happens). Don't do it. It won't work.

Attrition is down for the reasons Hoops says (better info) and also a greater effort by USNA to help mids who want to stay to be able to stay. For example, the academic resource center takes EA (extra assistance) to a new level. Despite all this, some mids decide USNA and/or the military isn't right for them and leave. Assuming it's a well-considered decision, it's best for both parties that they do.
 
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