How Screwed Am I? One-time Drug Use During AFROTC.

cgrim

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I will keep this somewhat brief, because I am extremely ashamed and need to get a clear answer of how to proceed.

Recently, I was extremely stupid and drank a bit too much, which led me to hitting a bong exactly one time. It was one of the worst experiences of my life, as I got extremely sick and paranoid, pushing me to the point of a panic attack. I regret it with every fiber of my being, as I want nothing more in my life than to serve in the United States Air Force as an officer. I am deeply ashamed of my actions, as I may have just thrown out my dream over something as stupid as this. It was completely out of character for me and I absolutely hate myself for it. I am currently going into my AS200 year and I am non-contracted. I am not afraid of the short-term, since I was a first-time smoker, it should be out of my system long before I return. I am however, scared of how to approach this long-term, such as when the DoDMERB and TS Clearance application come up.

Some people are telling me that if there is no record of me doing it, I should deny everything and that it will not come up unless someone other than myself brings it up. However, other people (and I am more on the side of these people), are telling me to come clean and state that it was exactly a one-time thing. There are a lot of ways this could go though, from what I have read, and I am unsure how to proceed.

I am fully for admitting to my actions, the question is of how and when. I have been told that I could either be given a slap on the wrist and an open eye kept on me for the rest of my time at ROTC, or I could be given the boot with no questions asked. Do I directly ask to speak to my cadre privately and just spill? Or do I wait for the DoDMERB to come up and admit it then? Some people who have already completed the program and have dealt with this before have told me that I should be fine admitting to my actions, as the DoD will not completely throw me out for a mistake; they will throw me out if I am caught lying. This is one of the worst and most stressful situations of my life and I have no idea what to do. Yes, I am a *******, irresponsible, and an idiot, but what is done is done, I cannot go back in time to beat my idiot self no matter how much I cry about it. I can only decide what happens next, so here I am.
 
Send me an email: lawrence.e.mullen.civ@mail.mil (***ensure you type the email just as it looks. No extra “e” anywhere***Lawrence E Mullen); provide complete name and last 4 SSN; provide the text of your posting above to YOUR email.

The subject line of the email should be “cgrim-SAF =
How Screwed Am I? One-time Drug Use During AFROTC..” Do NOT embed links in your email as I will not be able to view those.

It is highly unlikely you will be DQd by DoDMERB, (based solely on the description above) but it certainly may affect security clearances down the road for lying. The Air Force is the one Service that has a special administrative, not medical form, that all applicants to the AF must complete. AF Form 2030:wiggle:
 
Send me an email: lawrence.e.mullen.civ@mail.mil (***ensure you type the email just as it looks. No extra “e” anywhere***Lawrence E Mullen); provide complete name and last 4 SSN; provide the text of your posting above to YOUR email.

The subject line of the email should be “cgrim-SAF =
How Screwed Am I? One-time Drug Use During AFROTC..” Do NOT embed links in your email as I will not be able to view those.

It is highly unlikely you will be DQd by DoDMERB, (based solely on the description above) but it certainly may affect security clearances down the road for lying. The Air Force is the one Service that has a special administrative, not medical form, that all applicants to the AF must complete. AF Form 2030:wiggle:
Thank you for your reply. I have not outright denied or accepted any allegations of drug use with AFROTC or my Cadre, so I am unsure if it would be considered lying. At the moment, I am trying to decide whether or not to wait until the DoDMERB to confess or to outright email my cadre and have a conversation with them.
 
Statement = I have not outright denied or accepted any allegations of drug use with AFROTC or my Cadre, so I am unsure if it would be considered lying.
Response = I didn't imply you were. I was stating that "if" you lied, it may affect you down the line.

The decisions is yours, and yours alone. :wiggle:
 
I will keep this somewhat brief, because I am extremely ashamed and need to get a clear answer of how to proceed.

Recently, I was extremely stupid and drank a bit too much, which led me to hitting a bong exactly one time. It was one of the worst experiences of my life, as I got extremely sick and paranoid, pushing me to the point of a panic attack. I regret it with every fiber of my being, as I want nothing more in my life than to serve in the United States Air Force as an officer. I am deeply ashamed of my actions, as I may have just thrown out my dream over something as stupid as this. It was completely out of character for me and I absolutely hate myself for it. I am currently going into my AS200 year and I am non-contracted. I am not afraid of the short-term, since I was a first-time smoker, it should be out of my system long before I return. I am however, scared of how to approach this long-term, such as when the DoDMERB and TS Clearance application come up.

Some people are telling me that if there is no record of me doing it, I should deny everything and that it will not come up unless someone other than myself brings it up. However, other people (and I am more on the side of these people), are telling me to come clean and state that it was exactly a one-time thing. There are a lot of ways this could go though, from what I have read, and I am unsure how to proceed.

I am fully for admitting to my actions, the question is of how and when. I have been told that I could either be given a slap on the wrist and an open eye kept on me for the rest of my time at ROTC, or I could be given the boot with no questions asked. Do I directly ask to speak to my cadre privately and just spill? Or do I wait for the DoDMERB to come up and admit it then? Some people who have already completed the program and have dealt with this before have told me that I should be fine admitting to my actions, as the DoD will not completely throw me out for a mistake; they will throw me out if I am caught lying. This is one of the worst and most stressful situations of my life and I have no idea what to do. Yes, I am a *******, irresponsible, and an idiot, but what is done is done, I cannot go back in time to beat my idiot self no matter how much I cry about it. I can only decide what happens next, so here I am.
Speak the truth. That is all.
 
Based on your story and the you are an incoming sophomore, my assumption is that you you were drinking underage as well. That in and of itself, is not usually a big deal in the military, but now you have two strikes against you in regards to the incident. It really all depends on your cadre. Some will give you the boot, others will not. It won't disqualify you for DODMERB.
 
I will keep this somewhat brief, because I am extremely ashamed and need to get a clear answer of how to proceed.

Recently, I was extremely stupid and drank a bit too much, which led me to hitting a bong exactly one time. It was one of the worst experiences of my life, as I got extremely sick and paranoid, pushing me to the point of a panic attack. I regret it with every fiber of my being, as I want nothing more in my life than to serve in the United States Air Force as an officer. I am deeply ashamed of my actions, as I may have just thrown out my dream over something as stupid as this. It was completely out of character for me and I absolutely hate myself for it. I am currently going into my AS200 year and I am non-contracted. I am not afraid of the short-term, since I was a first-time smoker, it should be out of my system long before I return. I am however, scared of how to approach this long-term, such as when the DoDMERB and TS Clearance application come up.

Some people are telling me that if there is no record of me doing it, I should deny everything and that it will not come up unless someone other than myself brings it up. However, other people (and I am more on the side of these people), are telling me to come clean and state that it was exactly a one-time thing. There are a lot of ways this could go though, from what I have read, and I am unsure how to proceed.

I am fully for admitting to my actions, the question is of how and when. I have been told that I could either be given a slap on the wrist and an open eye kept on me for the rest of my time at ROTC, or I could be given the boot with no questions asked. Do I directly ask to speak to my cadre privately and just spill? Or do I wait for the DoDMERB to come up and admit it then? Some people who have already completed the program and have dealt with this before have told me that I should be fine admitting to my actions, as the DoD will not completely throw me out for a mistake; they will throw me out if I am caught lying. This is one of the worst and most stressful situations of my life and I have no idea what to do. Yes, I am a *******, irresponsible, and an idiot, but what is done is done, I cannot go back in time to beat my idiot self no matter how much I cry about it. I can only decide what happens next, so here I am.
People make mistakes - sometimes the consequences can be very severe - and even too severe. That does not excuse you from stepping up and dealing with issues. Your concern that not being open about the issue with your Cadre will be perceived as dishonest seems like a reasonable concern. I've always told people who work for and report to me (and my kids) not to compound a mistake by trying to hide it or ignoring it. I suspect that would be advice worth considering in your case. As a general matter, my experience is that the sooner one takes responsibility for a mistake the less damaging it will be. But, there is no guaranty that you will be cut a break on this incident.
 
I think a lot of cadets do things at college and their commander doesn't really want to know, such as freshman cadets drinking - my oldest was told that his first day at AFROTC :). You don't necessarily havew to come clean right now, that's up to you. But when you have a form to complete, be honest on it. Don't lie on a form. They'll see that the answer to trying weed was different than what you put on your app and ask you ab out that. Then you need to be honest. From what I've been told and seen, the military knows that kids will experiment. But it's the lie that they don't like. If you feel you want to speak up now, talk to your commanding cadet first for guidance.
 
I will echo what is said above; tell the truth. If you are ever asked, which you will be for clearance and your annual physical, then you must tell the truth. Down the line, somehow, somewhere, someone could report it to your unit if they find out and lying will make it 10x worse and surely disqualify you.

If you tell the truth now, hope to be at the mercy of the military, but I think because it was one time and if you can show true remorse, you will be fine.
 
I will keep this somewhat brief, because I am extremely ashamed and need to get a clear answer of how to proceed.

Recently, I was extremely stupid and drank a bit too much, which led me to hitting a bong exactly one time. It was one of the worst experiences of my life, as I got extremely sick and paranoid, pushing me to the point of a panic attack. I regret it with every fiber of my being, as I want nothing more in my life than to serve in the United States Air Force as an officer. I am deeply ashamed of my actions, as I may have just thrown out my dream over something as stupid as this. It was completely out of character for me and I absolutely hate myself for it. I am currently going into my AS200 year and I am non-contracted. I am not afraid of the short-term, since I was a first-time smoker, it should be out of my system long before I return. I am however, scared of how to approach this long-term, such as when the DoDMERB and TS Clearance application come up.

Some people are telling me that if there is no record of me doing it, I should deny everything and that it will not come up unless someone other than myself brings it up. However, other people (and I am more on the side of these people), are telling me to come clean and state that it was exactly a one-time thing. There are a lot of ways this could go though, from what I have read, and I am unsure how to proceed.

I am fully for admitting to my actions, the question is of how and when. I have been told that I could either be given a slap on the wrist and an open eye kept on me for the rest of my time at ROTC, or I could be given the boot with no questions asked. Do I directly ask to speak to my cadre privately and just spill? Or do I wait for the DoDMERB to come up and admit it then? Some people who have already completed the program and have dealt with this before have told me that I should be fine admitting to my actions, as the DoD will not completely throw me out for a mistake; they will throw me out if I am caught lying. This is one of the worst and most stressful situations of my life and I have no idea what to do. Yes, I am a *******, irresponsible, and an idiot, but what is done is done, I cannot go back in time to beat my idiot self no matter how much I cry about it. I can only decide what happens next, so here I am.
If you don’t mind me asking what was the result of this situation?
 
If you don’t mind me asking what was the result of this situation?
That original post was almost a year ago. You may not see a response.

There are plenty of threads about these situations. General advice is tell the truth.
 
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