How selective is USCGA?

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  1. GenericUserName

    GenericUserName Member

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    I am a junior in HS and have begun to think about colleges. I was thinking about ROTC but have always wanted to possible go to a service academy. Would I even have a shot? I took the sat a month ago without study and got a 1310. UW GPA is 3.75 and W is 4.1
    I participate in varsity track and cross country and am in NHS and DECA and live in southwest.
     
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    Wow, lower than I thought. Do you know anything about their engineering program and thoughts?
     
  4. ekb1398

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    What's lower than you thought?

    I am currently an engineering student here at the Academy and was formerly an engineering student at a Polytechnic university. They compare pretty well. I'm not sure exactly what you want to know - if you can be more specific, I can try to help you out on here or on a PM.
     
  5. GenericUserName

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    So do you think I'd have a chance at acceptance if I applied next year? I could probably improve sat to 1390 (equivalent of act 30)
     
  6. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    They only way to know is to apply. No one here can really guess on your chances other than to compare what info you have provided to the class profile. But there is so much no one will be aware of other than admissions. Apply but make sure you also work on plan A, B, C, and D.
     
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  7. GenericUserName

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    I'm currently in top 11%
     
  8. CrewDad

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    USCGA like all SAs ask you to submit your best self. There is no minimum and maximum. But many competitive candidates apply to Early Action which allows you to get an early look. And either take the Appointment or apply to other SAs after seeing your result.

    They can always defer you to regular decision. USCGA selected just over 50% of their class from Early Action. About 50% have attended AIM.

    CGA evaluate your ACT ENG MATH WRITING only.

    2018 Early Action Average was

    ACT E31, M32, W6

    SAT V under 700, M700 Writing ?

    GPA 3.83 (this maybe a weighted)

    Plus all your personal qualities and PFE Average was 240/300

    DODMERB seems to be stricter on eye standards for CG.

    These stats look pretty similar to other SA Average Stats. If you’re great in other qualities then I guess you can do with less Academics. Only you know your game better than any of us here in the Forum.

    Good Luck!
     
  9. GenericUserName

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    Does attending AIM help with appointment?
     
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    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    No. It might be useful to get to know the academy and perhaps their getting to know you but that's it. No extra points for attending AIM.
     
  11. GenericUserName

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    Thank you for all the information. I could max out the run, but would definitely need to work on push-ups.
     
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    Actually, they don't defer to Regular Action from Early Action, they waitlist. Only submit EA if you feel like you have a strong showing without much else to add of significance before RA.
     
  13. GenericUserName

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    Would being from New Mexico help?
     
  14. ekb1398

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    The "do I have a chance" game is a hard one to play. I'll share a little bit about me, not to brag but to make a point:

    I came out of high school with about a 4.65 weighed GPA on a 4.0 scale, Vice President of NHS, a Chief Petty Officer in the U.S. Naval Sea Cadet Corps, where I helped start a brand new unit. I played high school varsity hockey as well as Junior hockey, which demanded travel eight hours each way just for a game or two. 2150 on the SAT, tons of AP classes, many with A's. I had a nomination from my Congressman and was told by one of my Senators that I was selected, but that my state doesn't double nominate. There's some other stuff I'm forgetting, but it doesn't really matter. Point is, I thought I had it going on.

    I got denied from the Naval Academy, the Coast Guard Academy, the University of Virginia (my third choice school), and NROTC Marine Option. Didn't hear back from CGA and USNA until mid-April, if I recall correctly. I had about two weeks to figure out what to do. Completely rocked my world.

    So I went, attended a different college for a year, did Marine Corps NROTC as a programmer, and volunteered in Sea Cadets and that was about it - that was what I had going on in a nutshell. Sure, a lot of the stuff from high school didn't just disappear, but when you're a college applicant, all that stuff from high school fades away a little in the minds of other colleges. Oh, and my GPA was floating between 2.6 and 2.7.

    So I reapplied to all three of the programs I had previously applied to but didn't really expect much to come from any of them. In my mind, the one thing I really felt like was better than my application coming out of high school was my PFE (thanks to the NROTC-MO PT).

    Sure enough, denied from NROTC. Then USNA. And then, somehow, I got into Coast Guard, and that's probably the most excited I've been in a long time, at least as long as I can remember.

    Now that I've taken my time setting up the whole scenario for you, I'll get to my point, which is that you never really know what exactly they're looking for. I'll never know, but what I think made the difference for me:
    1) My essays. Instead of writing all the BS about what I thought they wanted to hear, I wrote what felt true. My first application, on the question about something you've worked for, I wrote about being a Chief in Sea Cadets. It's true; I did. It's an achievement, ya know? Second time around, I wrote about how I worked my butt off to save money for a beater of a Jeep and then learned to work on cars so I could fix it up just to be able to drive it somewhat reliably because I've always wanted a Jeep.
    2) I interviewed.
    3) I kept my admissions officer updated.

    Like I said, I know it's long-winded, but it's the answer I always give people when they ask the "what should I do to look better?" or "Do I have a chance?" question. The fact of the matter is, you never know.
     
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    Could, yeah. We don't have many people from there. This year, there are three states (I believe) where no appointments were tendered, so not necessarily. We don't have that requirement like other Academies.
     
  16. mascara_mom

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    No it does not. He attended AIM. It does help understand what the academy is all about for sure.
    My son was in pretty much in the last decisions for the class of 2020 and didn't get in BUT he had his Plan B, Plan C, etc in place as well because of these forums.
    His Plan B worked out wonderfully :)
     
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  17. MMA19kid

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    Sounds like you got very lucky to me. If I were on the admissions board, it would be a huge red flag that you went to a regular college and couldn't pull a 3.0 GPA.
     
  18. ekb1398

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    But you weren't! And to be fair, I was also a 21-credit, top engineering school "regular student."

    On the one hand, it certainly seemed somewhat backward. But don't call it luck either - I worked my butt off for what I earned.
     
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    I never applied to the Coast Guard Academy, because I have no desire to be chained to the coast guard for 5 years of active duty.

    I'm sorry you worked your butt off for those kind of results. There were other students at your 'top engineering school' who averaged better than a 'B' over their 21 hours of courses. I bet many worked less hard than you did, the difference being that they worked smarter instead of harder, maximizing their results and minimizing their time spent struggling.
     
  20. trackandfield08

    trackandfield08 USCGA 2014 10-Year Member

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    Don't feed the troll @ekb1398, you know what you've done to succeed and that is all that matters. At the end of the day, you're on your way to reaching your goal and your unique experience in navigating a year of college before attending USCGA makes you an invaluable asset to those applicants on here who become discouraged if not accepted right out of high school. MMA19's words and opinion on this matter mean nothing. Admissions obviously saw something in you that made them believe you would succeed as a CG officer - something that is not determined solely by someone's GPA.

    @MMA19kid Seeing as you have admitted to never applying to USCGA, I fail to see how you can positively contribute to a thread regarding USCGA selectivity unless you wish to suggest USMMA as another option to entering a maritime-based career should the OP wish to explore other options, whether that is as a merchant mariner or commissioning as an AD member of the Navy or CG.
     
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