I just had a nomination from my congressional representative show up in my CIS portal. I didn’t receive an email or letter or anything, and I’m just wondering how I know the nature of the nomination. Whether it’s principal, competitive, alternative etc. If anyone could help answer my question that’d be great!
How to know nature of nomination?
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You can ask the staffers. They may or may not tell you.
Thank you!
Follow up question, if it's principal and the rest of my application is fully qualified, does that guarantee me an appointment?
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For USMA and USAFA, if you are fully qualified - medical (DoDMERB) - physical (CFA) - scholastic/academic (everything else) else - if you have a principal nom, you must be offered an appointment, regardless of where USMA or USAFA ranked you on the slate. Interestingly, the statute for USNA gives them wiggle room so they don’t have to, but they generally do, in the interests of keeping the peace.
Candidates may or may not be informed they are fully qualified.
I do not believe principal noms are too common anymore. My sense is that elected officials prefer to leave Sorting Hat duties to the experts, the SAs.
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My question: is the juice worth the squeeze? Getting an answer from the staffer isn’t necessarily going to shed more information on getting an appointment. Your effort is better spent on other college applications, working on current school work, spending time with friends, sports…pretty much anything else!
USNA doesn't typically inform applicants of their 3Q status and you can't assume you are qualified. Since you have to be 3Q AND have a NOM to be in the running for an appointment, I don't see how you would benefit by knowing only part of the equation.
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Per BGO training (so straight from admissions…), *most* slates are submitted as a competitive slate.
I think you should assume that is the case, and move on. Work on alternate plans now, and be present in your senior year. My youngest was pulled of a waitlist in May. 7 months from now….so it can be a while until you hear!
I think you should assume that is the case, and move on. Work on alternate plans now, and be present in your senior year. My youngest was pulled of a waitlist in May. 7 months from now….so it can be a while until you hear!
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I love that line ...
I would add, if you received a principal nomination, the MOC would probably have told you.
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Maybe check back on the websites of your senators and MOC. Ours said on their websites that they don't use the principal nominating system. Maybe check back through those and see if there's any information.
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…..or admissions. My oldest inquired of admissions, to whom he should send a thank you note to for his appointment (beyond thanking them for his nominations) as he had all three. The response he got, from his admissions rep, was “you received a principal nomination from xxx”.
At the time, didn’t understand the meaning of that. But presumably he was charged to the principal nom. Anyhow, he wasn’t looking for the method of appointment, but inadvertently received the info from admissions.
Not saying to contact admissions. Point is, he wouldn’t have even known had admissions not told him. The nom source did not tell him he held a principal nominee.
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Taking into account MOC’s change and their methods can as well, but DS did receive a nice letter from Senator advising of pricipal nom.
He would not have known otherwise. When he read it we both headed to the SAF to see what it meant. And in the case of USNA what it may not mean (rare cases).
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My son was told on Christmas break his plebe year by someone he knew connected to the MOC panel that he received a principal nom.
My son didn’t care and we both assumed the person telling him may be wrong. So we will never know.
The congresswoman did call him on his cell phone from her cell phone congratulating him on his nomination and how she knows he will represent the district well. We wondered if that meant principal nom. At that point it didn’t matter. He had an LOA and was going to need a waiver for medical.
When i day arrives - it is all meaningless.
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The fact that you received a Nomination (MOC, SECNAV, etc.) is all that matters …
Don’t get hung up on Level, Popularity … whatever you want to attach to it … it doesn’t matter.
They’re looking for solid, mature kids …
… that “Fly Under the Radar”
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The fact that you received a Nomination (MOC, SECNAV, etc.) is all that matters …
Don’t get hung up on Level, Popularity … whatever you want to attach to it … it doesn’t matter.
They’re looking for solid, mature kids …
… that “Fly Under the Radar”
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If one receives a "nomination" on a (MOC) slate where the MOC issues a "Principal" Nomination to another candidate (not you) on the same slate...it can matter. But, you have no control over that. This is only one of the possibilities that cause many qualified and nominated candidates do not get appointed by the SA.
Other possibilities to be nominated and not get appointed exist depending on which of the three methods a MOC uses to present nominees to the SA. The three methods are: 1. Without ranking 2. Principal candidate and nine ranked alternatives or 3. Principle candidate and nine unranked alternatives.
There is no requirement for a MOC to tell candidates which method, 1, 2, or 3 they use.
Focus on what you can control.
Other possibilities to be nominated and not get appointed exist depending on which of the three methods a MOC uses to present nominees to the SA. The three methods are: 1. Without ranking 2. Principal candidate and nine ranked alternatives or 3. Principle candidate and nine unranked alternatives.
There is no requirement for a MOC to tell candidates which method, 1, 2, or 3 they use.
Focus on what you can control.