How will ROTC work with coronavirus and quarantine?

[Osprey]

I think that the current activities going on all around the country will be very telling about how large gatherings are going to play out with COVID. Thousands gathered together, for over a week now. Wearing masks for the most part. I think we will be seeing how that looks in a real, practical ‘experiment’. Very similar to thousands in dorms.

The experiment has already started on campuses with athletes returning. Early results are that several players have tested positive forcing them into at least a 14 day quarantine.

 

[justdoit19]

The experiment has already started on campuses with athletes returning. Early results are that several players have tested positive forcing them into at least a 14 day quarantine.

Not a doubt in my mind there will be positive cases. Facilities will need a plan for dealing with them. USNA does. It was part of the reason they keept Mids at home in March, so they could ramp up their ability to deal with positive cases. Not a doubt in my mind that they can, and will have cases.

What I was referring to, is whether there actually WILL be large breakouts. Or not. We are presently having large gatherings, socially distanced and not, masks and not. Were clusters seeded? Very similar to the atmosphere on a campus/in dorms. It will be interesting to see whether the activities result in huge, massive breakouts or not.

BTW, this is NOT a commentary on any opinion of COVID. It is only an observational point about what has been happening, and if it will/wont cause breakouts, and how it can be used to help going forward for college policy.

 

[BreakerBreaker]

You can add Michigan Tech to the Open On-Campus list.

• We are planning to welcome students, faculty, and staff back to campus for the start of the 2020-2021 academic year.
• Michigan Tech is ready to pivot between face-to-face and remote instruction when necessary.

Health Alerts | Dean of Students | Michigan Tech

A listing of health alerts concerning Michigan Technological University faculty, staff, and students.

www.mtu.edu

 

[THmom]

To add an article to what @Montana State Army ROTC said, the APFT is the test, not the ACFT, until further notice. https://www.stripes.com/news/army-p...-because-of-coronavirus-restrictions-1.624344

 

[thibaud]

UPDATED again, Fri 19 June 12:21, with new status for
Amherst College
Carnegie Mellon
Elon College
Haverford
MIT
Penn State
U. of Utah
U. of Wisconsin
Wesleyan U. (Connecticut)

Adding Carnegie Mellon, Elon College, Haverford College, Penn State, U. of Utah, U. of Wisconsin and Wesleyan U. (Connecticut) to list of colleges that plan to have on-campus instruction this fall.

(Nb. U. of Utah and U. of Wisconsin could be placed in the neither/nor, so-called "hybrid" model, as their presidents' statements are a bit ambiguous as to whether most classes will be online or in-person)

Adding Amherst College and MIT to list of colleges that plan to be primarily online, with relatively little (i.e. <=25%) on-campus instruction, this fall.

A roundup of what has been announced publicly, either in formal statements or in comments by official spokespersons or university presidents in the press:

Public Universities

Based on public announcements, the following state universities plan to open to on-campus instruction this fall:

Appalachian State
Arizona State
Auburn
Binghamton U.
Bowling Green State
Central Michigan
The Citadel
College of William & Mary
Colorado School of Mines
Florida State
Indiana U.
James Madison U.
Kansas State
Kent State
Miami U.
Michigan State
Mississippi State
North Carolina State
North Dakota U. system
Ohio State
Ohio U.
Penn State
Purdue
South Dakota School of Mines
Texas A&M
Texas State system
Texas Tech
The Citadel
U. of Alabama system
U. of Arizona
U. of Arkansas system
U. of Delaware
U. of Florida
U. of Georgia system
U. of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
U. of Kansas
U. of Louisiana system
U. of Maine
U. of Michigan
U. of Mississippi
U. of Nebraska system
U. of New Hampshire
U. of Nevada-Reno
U. of Nevada Las Vegas
U. of North Carolina-Charlotte
U. of North Texas
U. of Northern Colorado
U. of Oklahoma
U. of Pittsburgh
U. of South Carolina
U. of Southern Mississippi
U. of South Dakota system
U. of Tennessee system
U. of Texas system
U. of Toledo
U. of Vermont
U. of Virginia
U. of Wisconsin
U. of Wyoming
Utah System of Higher Education, incl. U. of Utah
Wake Forest U.
West Virginia U.

Still waiting to decide - plan to announce by end of June:
George Mason U.
U. of Houston
U. of Kentucky
Virginia Tech

Still waiting to decide - plan to announce by end of July:
U. of Connecticut
U. Mass-Amherst
U. of Minnesota

Will not re-open; classes will be primarily or entirely online:
U. of California*
Cal State system
Wayne State U.
* varies by campus - exact degree of opening tbd


Private Universities, Colleges and Conservatories

Here are private universities that have announced plans to re-open:
America U. ("intends" to re-open)
Baylor
Boston College
Boston U. ("intends" to re-open)
Brown U. ("leaning toward" re-opening)
Bryn Mawr
Bucknell College
Butler
Calvin University
Carnegie Mellon
Claremont Colleges ("committed" to re-opening; will announce by July 1)
Cleveland Institute of Music
Elon College
Embry-Riddle (both AZ and FL campuses)
Fordham
Goucher College
Haverford College
Holy Cross
Iona College
Ithaca College
Kenyon College
Marquette U.
The New England Conservatory
Northeastern
Norwich U.
Notre Dame
Oberlin College
Quinnipiac
Santa Clara U.
Savannah College of Art and Design
Sewanee
Susquehanna
Syracuse U.
TCU
Tulane
U. of the Pacific
U. of Southern California
U. of Tulsa
Wake Forest U.
Wash U. St. Louis
Wesleyan U. (Connecticut)

Still waiting to decide - plan to announce by end of June:
Columbia
Cornell
Drexel U.
Duke
Emory U.
George Washington U.
Lehigh U.

Likely will not re-open; classes are expected to be primarily or entirely online:
Amherst
Colgate U. (likely online)
Dartmouth
Harvard
MIT
Princeton (likely online)

NEITHER/NOR as of Fri 19 June

Here are those which have announced they will pursue a neither/nor, so-called "hybrid" model. While not entirely closed, these should not be considered as belonging in the "Open" category.

Public universities proposing a "hybrid" model ie online + some in-person (exact mix tbd) instruction:

Boise State
Kent State
New Mexico State
UC Berkeley
UC Davis
UCLA
UC San Diego
U. of Colorado
U. of Maryland system (incl. both College Park and the State U's)
U. of Missouri
U. of Nevada-Las Vegas
U. of New Mexico
U. of Washington
Western Washington U.
Wichita State

Private colleges and universities proposing a "hybrid" model ie online + some in-person (exact mix tbd) instruction:

Adelphi U.
Beloit College
Case Western
Fairleigh Dickinson U.
John Carroll U.
Loyola U. - New Orleans
Mt. Holyoke
Northwestern
Rice
Simmons College
Stanford
U. of San Diego
U. of Tulsa
Vanderbilt

 

[Impulsive]

Quite a few "Public Universities" are planning on going "virtual" again (Ie: sending students home) the beginning of November 2020. They won't be going back (as of now) till Spring Semester. I think ALL ROTC programs are going to be in for a rough ride in the coming year. In order to complete "mandatory" summer training, it may require 7,000 students (In each service) to travel, pass medical and quarantine process, and then integrate into different size units. If the Covid-19 issue is still unsettled ROTC training next summer may be in jeopardy. Hopefully the ROTC students will get the same vaccine priority as the academy students. It has leaked already that AD military is Priority 1 for vaccines, but since Nat Guard, Reserves, and Officer and enlisted candidates are of such importance they should be Priority II. If I were back on a ship or shore unit, I don't think I would be real happy that a few or a bunch of temporary unknown status trainees got assigned and put everyone in the unit at risk. I would hope that nothing regarding a virus or sickness would derail a military career, enlisted or officer! The DoD counts on this infusion of officers every year to complete needs, if they fail to commission a full year of ROTC students, personally I think it not feasible, DoD has to do something. But everyone is looking forward to the presumptive start back to fall ROTC Programs, hopefully fall will go well!

 

[ProudDad17]

Michigan announced yesterday that they will be back in person in the fall. Some large classes will be held virtually and I believe the email said there would be virtual options for other classes as well. Fall break is cancelled and students will not return to campus after Thanksgiving. The remainder of the semester and finals will be online. Spring break will also be cancelled.

 

[Doctor_Pepper]

Michigan announced yesterday that they will be back in person in the fall. Some large classes will be held virtually and I believe the email said there would be virtual options for other classes as well. Fall break is cancelled and students will not return to campus after Thanksgiving. The remainder of the semester and finals will be online. Spring break will also be cancelled.

University of New Hampshire announced a similar type of return.

 

[ProudDad17]

DD going to Northern Arizona University (not ROTC). They are starting the semester 08/12 and will finish the semester before Thanksgiving. Mostly in person classes, with remote options and some classes only remote. It will be interesting to see how schools implement physical distancing and protective measures, such as requiring masks.

 

[navyfamilyof4]

my co workers daughter is starting at Colgate in August and i believe they are going to be in person. they will be requiring all students to be tested within 24 hours of showing up on movein day and they have a nearby hotel booked for quarantine for anyone that test positive upon arrival and for anyone that gets covid while there. its a small / remote school so this plan seems like it will work for them

 

[navyfamilyof4]

University of New Hampshire announced a similar type of return.

NC State will have this same schedule

 

[Osprey]

Air Force ROTC recently held a town hall describing what thing might look like in the fall. They are still working out the details, but sounds like they might offer a menu of options to each program based on on-the-ground conditions at that location. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.montgomeryadvertiser.com/amp/3240051001

 

[Impulsive]

Looks like "most" ROTC programs are going to be similar. I can definitely see the wisdom of keeping students on campus as long as possible as some "technical" majors require very specific equipment to conduct labs and projects. I would venture a guess that if the school can afford it, they will end up housing students in hotels, condos, whatever is available to reduce the "personal" footprint on campus 24/7 and larger classes will be "remote" again to social distance when possible. In our son's NROTC Unit there is no "winter" training, so if he is released early November as is planned, he won't miss required NROTC training, but my be in trouble completing his work in labs. More of an academic problem then military though.. Lets all hope there is a vaccine before next summer's training cycle.

 

[rudycoon]

Cornell is re-opening for in person classes with a few classes still being taught online. Dorms will open but be modified for no more than double occupancy. Social distancing, masks, and daily health checks will be required.

 

[yickwo]

Yale just announced this morning of re-opening with students in residence, but with most classes on-line. 1st year, Jr. and Sr. in residence for Fall. Sophomore, Jr. and Sr. for Spring.

 

[thibaud]

UPDATED again, Fri 3 July 22:03 ET

A roundup of what has been announced publicly, either in formal statements or in comments by official spokespersons or university presidents in the press:

Based on public announcements, the following SMCs plan to open to primarily on-campus instruction this fall:

The Citadel​

Norwich U.​

Texas A&M​

U. North Georgia (details unclear)​

Virginia Tech ("we will prioritize in-person instruction "for courses, labs, studios, and performances that cannot be offered remotely at comparable quality")​

Public Universities

Based on public announcements, the following flagship universities plan to open to primarily on-campus instruction this fall:

Appalachian State​

Arizona State​

Auburn​

Binghamton U.​

Bowling Green State​

Central Michigan​

College of William & Mary​

Colorado School of Mines​

Florida State​

Indiana U.​

James Madison U.​

Kansas State​

Kent State​

Miami U.​

Michigan State​

Michigan Tech​

Mississippi State​

North Carolina State​

North Dakota U. system​

Northern Arizona U.​

Northern Michigan U.​

Ohio State​

Ohio U.​

Penn State​

Purdue​

South Dakota School of Mines​

Texas A&M​

Texas State system​

Texas Tech​

The Citadel​

U. of Alabama system​

U. of Arizona​

U. of Arkansas system​

U. of Delaware​

U. of Florida​

U. of Georgia system​

U. of Illinois Urbana-Champaign​

U. of Kansas​

U. of Louisiana system​

U. of Maine​

U. of Michigan​

U. of Mississippi​

U. of Nebraska system​

U. of New Hampshire​

U. of Nevada-Reno​

U. of Nevada Las Vegas​

U. of North Carolina-Charlotte​

U. of North Georgia​

U. of North Texas​

U. of Northern Colorado​

U. of Oklahoma​

U. of Pittsburgh​

U. of South Carolina​

U. of Southern Mississippi​

U. of South Dakota system​

U. of Tennessee system​

U. of Texas system​

U. of Toledo​

U. of Vermont​

U. of Virginia​

U. of Wisconsin​

U. of Wyoming​

Utah System of Higher Education, incl. U. of Utah​

Wake Forest U.​

West Virginia U.​

Western Kentucky U.​

Still waiting to decide:

George Mason U.​

U. of Connecticut​

U. of Houston​

U. of Kentucky​

U. of Minnesota​

Classes are expected to be primarily or entirely online:

Rutgers​

U. of California*​

Cal State system​

U. of Massachusetts - Amherst​

Wayne State U.​

* varies by campus - exact degree of opening tbd​

Private Universities, Colleges and Conservatories

Here are private universities that have announced plans to re-open to primarily on-campus instruction:

Baylor​

Boston College​

Boston U. ("intends" to re-open)​

Brown U. ("leaning toward" re-opening)​

Bryn Mawr​

Bucknell College​

Butler​

Calvin University​

Carnegie Mellon​

Claremont Colleges ("committed" to re-opening; will announce by July 1)​

Clark U. in Massachusetts​

Cleveland Institute of Music​

Colgate U.​

Cornell U.​

Elon College​

Emory U.​

Embry-Riddle (both AZ and FL campuses)​

Fordham​

Goucher College​

Hamilton College​

Haverford College​

Holy Cross​

Iona College​

Ithaca College​

Kenyon College​

Lafayette College​

Lehigh U.​

Marquette U.​

Muhlenberg College​

The New England Conservatory​

Northeastern​

Norwich U.​

Notre Dame U.​

Oberlin College​

Quinnipiac​

Santa Clara U.​

Seton Hall U.​

Savannah College of Art and Design​

Sewanee​

Susquehanna​

Syracuse U.​

TCU​

Tulane​

U. of the Pacific​

U. of Tulsa​

Wake Forest U.​

Wash U. St. Louis​

Wesleyan U. (Connecticut)​

Worcester Polytechnic Institute​

Still waiting to decide - plan to announce by end of June:

Columbia​

Duke​

George Washington U.​

Classes are expected to be primarily or entirely online:

American U. (primarily online)​

Bowdoin College (almost entirely online except for first-years and transfers)​

Dartmouth​

Harvard​

MIT​

Princeton (likely primarily online)​

Sarah Lawrence College (almost entirely online except for first-years and transfers)​

Swarthmore College​

U. of Southern California​

Williams College​

Yale ("for most lectures and seminars — as well as other small-format courses such as writing classes and introductory language classes — the bulk of instruction will be conducted remotely")​

NEITHER/NOR as of Fri 3 July

Here are those which have announced they will pursue a neither/nor, so-called "hybrid" model. While not entirely closed, these should not be considered as belonging in the "Open" category.

Public universities proposing a "hybrid" model ie online + some in-person (exact mix tbd) instruction:

Boise State​

Kent State​

New Mexico State​

Portland State​

Southern Illinois U.​

UC Berkeley​

UC Davis​

UCLA​

UC San Diego​

U. of Colorado​

U. of Maryland system (incl. both College Park and the State U's)​

U. of Missouri​

U. of Nevada-Las Vegas​

U. of New Mexico​

U. of Pittsburgh​

U. of Washington​

Virginia Tech​

Western Washington U.​

Wichita State​

Private colleges and universities proposing a "hybrid" model ie online + some in-person (exact mix tbd) instruction:

Adelphi U.​

Amherst College​

Beloit College​

Boston College​

Brigham Young U.​

Case Western​

Cornell​

Drexel U.​

Fairleigh Dickinson U.​

Haverford College​

John Carroll U.​

Loyola U. - New Orleans​

Morehouse College​

Mt. Holyoke​

Northwestern​

Occidental College​

Penn​

Pratt Institute​

Rice​

Simmons College​

Spelman College​

Stanford​

U. of San Diego​

U. of Tulsa​

Vanderbilt​

Wellesley College​

 

[Osprey]

This is continuing to evolve and teachers are speaking out and asking for accommodations. TCU just changed to allow students AND teachers to choose whether the class is online. So, if the teacher chooses online and the dean approves, its online. If the teacher chooses in person classes, then the student has a choice of in person or online. Students can take classes fully online from home or from their dorm....although unclear whether this includes ROTC classes.

 

[tgtl]

Looks like U Scranton and the schools in the Royal Warrior Battalion will be in person as well

 

[Osprey]

Princeton just announced their plans. They are only allowing freshmen and juniors on campus for fall, but they are making an exception for all ROTC students - allowing them to be on campus. https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020...versity-community-about-2020-21-academic-year

 

[Nrotc mom]

UPenn has not been included in your list, but they are hybrid also