I-Day 2020

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Ok, for all the seasoned pros - I know that the right answer is to just remain patient.
But just for the heck of it and to break up the monotonous wait...what are everyone”s best guesses for I day?
On time or delayed? Parents allowed or no? Group oath or no? March into Bancroft and door slam or no?

My guess?
On time/ no parents/ group oath/ march in
 
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The 200+ NAPSters are scheduled to report 2 or 3 days earlier on Tuesday June 23rd. All the NAPSters remained at the Prep school in Newport after spring break until finals. They came home on April 18th. I asked DD if anyone got sick, and she didn’t hear of anyone getting ill.

They were quarantined to the Base and did classes online at their desks in their dorm rooms, but tests and quizzes were proctored. I would say that was a good experiment.

I pray they start on time. Maybe just 2 immediate family members are allowed to witness a regular swearing-in ceremony, masks covering faces.
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My guess is that the plebes will report on June 25th but there will be no additional activities for parents etc. As long as they go in on time....that's all that matters to me as a parent.
 
I’ll play. My GUESS around the originally scheduled time, but not the actual day. Maybe a week early. With a quarantine initially. Perhaps with a roommate, maybe not. And for two weeks, in that quarantine, any processing, testing etc will be done that can be done.

No parents at all.

No big huge group oath, rather in cohorts like the Firsties starting this week!! Maybe they will be videoed? No big door slam.

I think that once a quarantine has happened, you will be treated as a familial unit. So will be together. More company wide than as a whole large group. Socially distanced from other companies, but close with your own.

This is how my oldest basic for air force was treated, and his upcoming tech training. He goes early for a two week quarantine prior to his 6 month schooling. The military hasn’t stopped. They continue on.... and God Bless them!!
 
navalaviator00 said:
As a detailer for this summer, I won’t give too much away but say that most of the above won’t happen. Suffice to say, this year is going to be a plebe summer like no other!
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I think you are absolutely correct. Talking to Grads of multiple academies, the general feeling is "keep the cadets/mids safe". The academies have to bring back the Classes of 2021, 2022, and 2023, and if they follow the protocol USMA is using for the Class of 2020, that is going to take a couple of weeks, I am guessing (just a guess) is that bringing in the "new" class may not happen till mid July and then a condensed version of new student training may happen.

Think, bringing back 3300 people from around the country and then another 1100 new students and packing them into dorms and working in the close quarters they work in is asking for trouble. One carrier could potentially infect hundreds if not 1000 or more because of the closeness of academy life. All the academies will have to take maybe draconian means to try and insure health and safety of their students. No one knows what is going to happen at this time, but I agree with @navalaviator that this will be a summer and maybe fall like no other.

I think it is a lot like the TR problem, lots of people confined and if one slips through you have a major problem.
 
As much as I try to avoid speculation here, I can't resist. I predict 100% virtual Plebe Summer, administered by Parents and older siblings....

Just Kidding, I like the idea of some form or 'quarantine" before forming the class--without other Midshipman there, there is plenty of room in the Hall to one Plebe to a room for a couple weeks, then form the Class and move on. The quarantine can probably shortened to several days if testing is available. It is my understanding Navy Boot Camp (and I presume other services) have been doing this with success.
 
Old Navy BGO said:
As much as I try to avoid speculation here, I can't resist. I predict 100% virtual Plebe Summer, administered by Parents and older siblings....

Just Kidding, I like the idea of some form or 'quarantine" before forming the class--without other Midshipman there, there is plenty of room in the Hall to one Plebe to a room for a couple weeks, then form the Class and move on. The quarantine can probably shortened to several days if testing is available. It is my understanding Navy Boot Camp (and I presume other services) have been doing this with success.
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A 14-day ROM is essentially guaranteed at this point. So are no spectators.
 
A couple of questions - I fully understand it is all speculation but I am wondering what the prevailing thoughts/precedents are: 1) do you think there will be a 14 day ROM at home as well before reporting for I-day? 2) What does the ROM look like at USNA? Will they be able to leave their rooms for any PT/exercise etc?
 
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I predict the opposite will happen. The Plebes arrive on time or earlier. This allows more time for things to settle. And NAPSters will still arrive several days to a week earlier than this.
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I think Delaying the start of plebe summer adds more risk.
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Development and Testing should never be late .... find Defects early and often.
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Dr. Strange Love said:
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I predict the opposite will happen. The Plebes arrive on time or earlier. This allows more time for things to settle. And NAPSters will still arrive several days to a week earlier than this.
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I think Delaying the start of plebe summer adds more risk.
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Development and Testing should never be late .... find Defects early and often.
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unfortunately an on time plebe summer is already not on the table.
 
navalaviator00 said:
unfortunately an on time plebe summer is already not on the table.
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What value is there in waiting? NAPSers are a good start too. Also, there are between 30-40 prior enlisted in the NAPSter battalion.
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I like the idea of them being outside a lot getting “Sunlight” and natural Vitamin D production. Also, Sunlight suppresses the Natural immune response (e.g, cytokines storms, Autoimmune diseases) .... just saying.

They need fresh air and activity. Caves and isolation can be dangerous too.
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I am sure USNA will do what is best. Bringing in 1200+ appointees not only from all 50 states, we have US territories and another dozen or so countries. I am sure they are talking with COs aboard the various boot camps, talking with the other SAs, with big Navy leadership and medical staff and figuring out what works best and can be done safely. USNA has to get rooms cleaned out from current Mids, more than likely a large scale mass sanitation of Mother B, and then figuring out how to stage and prepare for Plebe Summer (with the possibility of quarantine or even testing being involved). Yes, this is a very low risk group, but it's also a group that is about to have their immune system kicked in the teeth. Plebe Hack is an example of that year in and year out. But it's more than that. Its turning on all the Brigade services too. Uniform distro, tailors, those who work in King Hall, laundry services, etc. All those folks have to be brought back to the Yard. How do you do that and ensure a positive person does not bring that back to the yard to someone who is maybe fitting Plebes all day in uniforms. They have to get this all moving again and do it safely. Masks, gloves, temp checks all need to be put in place for these services before Plebes come on the yard. The great part is with no summer camps, etc. ongoing they probably have more room in Bancroft for Plebe Summer than normal, but that still requires Mids to clean out rooms first. USNA will figure it out and do what is right. Until then we can all armchair quarterback this to death. I am sure as they get 2020 out the door this week they will be releasing more info shortly with what the future holds.
 
navalaviator00 said:
A 14-day ROM is essentially guaranteed at this point. So are no spectators.
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ROM? with 14 days mentioned, I assume it is quarantine related, but not sure specifically.

I suspect no spectators inside the gates as well. My question, what would be the assumed procedure, then? Hug and drop off at front gate and then a LONG meandering stroll along Annapolis streets until some confirmation that they have taken the oath and cleared induction?

I would guess they would need to do this on multiple days to prevent long queue lines. But, that is my non-military logic. Maybe 250 per day for the entire week?
 
They sent the class of '24 our report times, so we're expecting to report on June 25th. If it changes less than a month and a half out, I'd be very surprised, but I don't think it's out of the question. I personally think it'll be 2 weeks of quarantine (where we do all the stuff to prepare us for the academic year) and then a 5 week (very intense) plebe summer, just IMO.
 
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... and NAPSters report on Tuesday June 23rd, 2 days earlier.
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Let me start this post with my hope for a plebe summer to start on it's intended date: 25 June....but...I have my reservations.

Our oldest son, who is going to be a Plebe detailer this summer has been home with us since mid-March. As much as he is able, he has kept us in the loop as to all the potential scenarios playing out for I-day and Plebe Summer. Our younger son, his brother, is going to be a plebe this summer and I can't tell you how hilarious our dinner conversations have been with regards to plebe summer. With the limited gouge our son has been able to share with us, I have to agree with what navalaviator00 posted above.

Many scenarios being floated around, but as of this post, we are T-minus 45 days until I-day, less for NAPSters. Do not see I-Day happening earlier; later most probably with some sort of testing/quarantine/ROM for sure. Eldest DS even pokes fun and says, 'looks like there may be two plebe classes--2023 (since they weren't able to do Sea Trials or scale Herndon) and now 2024'--all tongue in cheek mind you.

Keep preparing as if it is June 25th. However, don't be surprised with whatever announcement officially comes. The Plebes are just one huge part of the equation with regards to Plebe summer. Re-populating the Yard with all the personnel needed to run plebe summer, coupled with all the supplies needed for the plebes (which may or may not have been affected with all the supply chain disruptions), plus getting the entire Brigade's belongings out of Bancroft...that is a lot to have to happen in a mere 45 days.
 
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