I-Day Weigh In

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  1. blueplate99

    blueplate99 USNA 21

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    Does anyone know what the maximum weights are when you show up on I-Day? Do the detailers check? I'm aware they do at other SAs but wasn't sure at USNA. What happens if someone doesn't make weight, but is obviously (or not obviously) physically fit? Do they do a BMI or body fat % test or anything?
     
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    USNA uses different height and weight standards than the fleet. I think you will be weighed on I day but don't think it counts. You have months prior to I Day. Bottom line... know the standards for the PRT and height weight requirements. Get within the standard. It will make life easier and also you will be in better shape.
     
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    I would expect that Height and Weight are measured/reviewed as part of the Medical . Has there been a change ? Agree with Hoops...know the standards and stay within.

    Weigh in at I day is as much to establish a baseline as to verify that you meet standards. We were weighed every couple weeks to identify whether we were losing to much weight. To show how times have changed, I lost about 15 lbs and when the Detailer asked why, I told him I hadn't had a beer all summer. He laughed.
     
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    That's what my son reported, too.

    Agree with Hoops, too. Focus on the PRT standards.
     
  6. SCMids

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    They turned one away last I-Day for weight.
     
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    pleber16 USNA 2016 5-Year Member

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    Before anyone starts freaking out, the individual was grossly out of standards. As in, so far out of standards that there definitely must've been someone along the way who lied on medical and CFA scores.
     
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    Wow. Yeap, someone definitely lied. Unfortunate. Know the standards and stay within them. If you are close to the standards now, I would recommend you see the nutritionist ASAP once the ac year starts. Learn how to eat healthy on USNA food. They can help guide you. Plebe Summer you are so active you pretty much eat everything. Once you sit in classes and have more control over food options it makes thinks more difficult.
     
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    Hoops, unlike when I was a plebe, I hear that there are 'diet tables' in King Hall. This is a great boon, if it is true and offers sufficient food that students can eat. As a small person and as a cheerleader, I really struggled to stay tiny with the food choices at the squad table (Hello, apple dumpling belly-bombs!). Are there still 'diet tables'? Is there a stigma around sitting there? Are plebes permitted to sit at those tables?

    Working with a nutritionist prior to I-Day and working with a nutritionist after the start of the academic year would be beneficial to future midshipmen who are pushing against the upper weight limit?

    Also, you had mentioned that USNA used a different height weight table than the fleet. I hunted around and didn't find it. (And as someone who has worked lately on gendered height weight standards in the services--the Navy has a wide aperture for BMI--especially compared to the Marine Corsp, where women maxed at BMI 25 or less. That standard has increased by at least 5 lbs per height...important with the transition to pull ups and to women in the ground combat element...we discovered that slightly more muscular, bigger Marines (who happen to be women) lead to greater success in the training. So, do you have a link to the USNA standard?
     
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    I've actually had much concern over the topic.

    On the height/weight standard chart provided by USNA, I should weigh a maximum of 206lbs according to my height. When I did my medical exam, I was 200, but when I received my appointment, I was 220lbs. I'm currently working my way down to the standard, (at 214lbs now), but God forbid if I don't make it to 206lbs by I-Day, is there a good chance that I'll be turned away at a current weight of 214lbs?
     
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    There is a diet kitchen. That has been around for a few decades. It provides options for Mids looking for alternative food options like vegetarian, watching weight, gaining weight, maybe they had oral surgery and need all liquid diet for awhile. Not sure how it works now, but when I was there you had to have a nutritionist consult, but then could have access to it. I believe they are overall doing a better job of this as time has moved on. I think people in general are more health conscious on food and that has impacted Mids. Many nights, if not all, during the week, offers a salad bar.

    697, have you tried the tape measure method outlined? Its enclosure 2 of the document. See where you measure. Ensure to follow the rules exactly. If you are well below the body fat % you will be fine. If you are close to that line or over, I would see a nutritionist to get those pounds off. At your age, metabolism, and athleticism, you will drop it fast. I would venture to say you will be fine regardless of 214 or 206 on I Day, but never leave things to chance.
     
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    DS is a football lineman (Cat III in the file DrMom found), but he is losing down to make weight and tape and will let the coaches decide what to do with him. He would rather prove he can meet the standards now and still be athletic in his position than have to stay behind a year like Zuzek and Bernie who had issues sizing down for graduation.

    Thanks for sharing the find!
     
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    Desert Cali Mom, the big guys on the football have always had to slim down for graduation and commissioning. They transition to a training/slimming program when they come out of season after the Army Navy Game. It might be awesome for your guy to know he can do it--but if he is a CAT III...

    Also, 697, read through the relevant pages about the weigh ins.

    Hoops, thanks for the discussion on food options at USNA. It was hard to be 'that small' eating fried fish sandwich with cheese...oh wait, I feel a chow call coming on...
     
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    He will slim down over Plebe Summer regardless. The football lineman all do. The football strength and conditioning staff does an amazing job with the seniors when they are done playing. They help them out with diet and a monitored detailed plan to pass the PRT. Most pass it without an issue in plenty of time. The football team is bigger than I was there and doing even a better job at that slim down and run fast piece.
     
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    Food at USNA has changed substantially over the past few years. Even from the time I was a plebe until I graduated it was vastly different. Diet tables are not a thing any more, and I don't think they have been for awhile because I've never heard of them. The diet kitchen is pretty much only vegetarian option. Some people will do that even if they aren't vegetarian because sometimes it provides a healthier choice, you do still need a consult with the nutritionist. That being said, there are a ton of options now. Lunch/Dinner there's always salad bars and a protein bar. They've taken desserts off the tables (unfortunately vegetables too...) and if none of that's going for you, greek yogurt and peanut butter is a staple of midshipman diets...it isn't super easy to eat healthy, but it's definitely manageable. I missed a lot of dinners for my sport and a lot of the time I would just bring a tupperware container down to lunch and pack it with salad and some sort of protein. All of this is based on 10 months ago before I graduated, but I doubt it's changed much since then.

    Also for anyone looking at that instruction DrMom linked, I'm pretty sure it's out of date. They got rid of the CAT statuses. Measurement/weight info should still be accurate. There is still an exception for varsity athletes.

    And DesertCaliMom if you're talking about Bernie Sarra, he did make weight for graduation.
     
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