Or, like my unfocused unsober self was, making c's and d's first 2 years and getting "encouraged" to DOR before Jr year.
I don't think I will ever become a military officer
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Or, like my unfocused unsober self was, making c's and d's first 2 years and getting "encouraged" to DOR before Jr year.
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Just to confirm - what is the goal of the original post/ what is the goal of the OP -to be a leader in the military and to find a path to get there? Or do you want validation that it's too late for you as was stated, which overall I don't think you'll find here?
Is enlisting with the hope of being selected to OCS/OTS eventually a path for this OP? Enlisted to Warrant Officer path?
The age comment is defeatist and honestly not fully accurate - while some will be training primarily with people who are younger than then, . There are plenty of people at the academies and universities who via for example the MECEP program first serve then attend a university and don't graduate college/ commission as an 0-1 until they are roughly 25. A family friend is now a Marine officer who was 22 when he started USNA after serving as a Marine- he often joked about feeling old, having aches/pains through Plebe summer etc. But he's an O1 now and living his dream.
OP, if you want to specify what you're looking for a bit further, maybe we can help you find more details.
Is enlisting with the hope of being selected to OCS/OTS eventually a path for this OP? Enlisted to Warrant Officer path?
The age comment is defeatist and honestly not fully accurate - while some will be training primarily with people who are younger than then, . There are plenty of people at the academies and universities who via for example the MECEP program first serve then attend a university and don't graduate college/ commission as an 0-1 until they are roughly 25. A family friend is now a Marine officer who was 22 when he started USNA after serving as a Marine- he often joked about feeling old, having aches/pains through Plebe summer etc. But he's an O1 now and living his dream.
OP, if you want to specify what you're looking for a bit further, maybe we can help you find more details.
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Ageism here.Well if you would stop "stealing a multi-million dollar military aircraft and flying it in such a manner that it may never be airworthy again." you would would be farther along in training. Remember Iceman is no longer here to protect
you.
If Maverick can be a O-6 at age 65ish, then OP can be an officer in their 20's.
Grace Hopper and Rickover were both admirals in their late 70s and 80sWell if you would stop "stealing a multi-million dollar military aircraft and flying it in such a manner that it may never be airworthy again." you would would be farther along in training. Remember Iceman is no longer here to protect
you.
If Maverick can be a O-6 at age 65ish, then OP can be an officer in their 20's.
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True. Though Rickover was a Admiral for 30 of his 63 years in the Navy. Though Maverick's contribution to the Navy dwarfs Rickover's,
Rickover's career was pretty rare and special. Even "Maverick the Great" couldn't reach the career span of Rickover as he was a Captain for what 30-35 years of a 50 year career. Mav got robbed!These great examples of Grace Hopper, Hyman Rickover, and Maverick the Great all show that 20's as a officer is just fine.....see how I stayed on topic and didn't veer on a attempt of a humorous tangent.
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Great point, this. ^^^
I'm a professor at our flagship state university. I've learned that it has one of the biggest -- if not the biggest -- MECEP program in the country. I've had about a half-dozen MECEP candidates as students. All were in their mid to late 20s. Solid students -- mature, focused, respectful, diligent -- if not necessarily A students. I doubt anyone in that group will peak within a couple years of getting their butter bars.
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How would you get a mentor? Most people in the military are highly impatient and say: "Sorry, I am busy. Please go away".
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How many military personnel do you know?
Here I go again. I can't help myself, responding to your 5th overall post on this site stating that, "most people in the military are highly impatient."
Mentorship is a hallmark of military leadership. Training our replacement is the lifeblood of sustained readiness.
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Didn't check the other 5 posts, but just this one alone. Something off here. I would say the opposite is true about 'most people in the millitary'. I've been in the military and my experience found this not to be the case, I've supervised military personnel in the gov't sector, high ranking ones and lower enlisted and again all were exceptionally qualified, competent and willing to go the extra mile. I have also supervised and managed ex-military from all branches save the Coasties and again, no problems there. For anyone who has ever had an ex Marine working for them, they are simply all amazing. You give a Marine a task and it WILL get done.
Maybe this poster is talking about another countries "people in the military"...hmmm.
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And one of the "mentors" I meant told me it's a waste of time to join the military at my current stage in life
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Paul Douglas was 50 when he reported to Parris Island. Different era, different circumstances, but imagine a world without people such as Paul Douglas. I can't.
It’s a waste of time if you want it to be. You either want to do this or don’t. If you really want to do this, then enlist and apply for officer programs from there. Plenty of folks join the military in their mid-20s, especially on the officer side. Either commit or focus on other things.
