I think I don't stand a chance anymore...

I didn't take the PSAT, because I wouldn't score in the top 2/3%. I just planned on taking the ACT as much times as I can next year.


Matas,

Because you are a sophomore, your scores wouldn't count toward being a National Merit Scholar this year. However, it would have been a great practice test for next year when your scores would count. Maybe even enough to help get you in the top 3%.

All three of my kids have taken the ACT at least once a year since 8th grade, and all of them took the PSAT as sophomores to practice for the real one. Every year their scores increased. The two oldest ones have done well with the help of very good scores when it counted. My youngest is the same age as you and we are waiting for the results of his PSAT. He has his sights on USAFA or USNA because he wants to be a pilot.

You need to get moving and do the things that will help you in the future instead of just sitting there and making excuses for everything that isn't the way you want.

Stealth_81
 
It has been a long day so I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way...

Matas,

I don't know what to think of you. It appears that you area smart kid who is pulling peoples' chains. You answer every suggestion with some variation on the "Woe is me" theme. Woe means bad luck. You also use terrible grammar with what seems to be deliberate vengeance.

If you are not jerking these decent posters around then do the following:

1)Get with a school counselor, your parents or someone other than your math teacher, who apparently can't be bothered, and figure out the math issue. If you are getting all A's and failing math, there is a problem. This should have been flagged last year.

2)Tell your English teacher to read your writing with a critical eye. Give him/her your postings from this board for starters.

3)Start taking PSAT/SAT/ACT's now. Take them with a purpose. The purpose is to learn how to take standardized tests. There is a method to taking them which is not taught in your high school classes. If you aspire to the military there will be many standardized tests. How well you do on the Math ACT/SAT could give insight into the classroom issue.

4)Forget about the military and this forum for one year and concentrate on school, sports, church, your car or whatever. Just be a well-rounded good guy. These are your golden years. For every gung ho poster on this board who appears to have had everything figured out by age 13, there are many in SA's, ROTC and OCS, like my DS's who figured it out late, for reasons I still don't fully understand.

Its fine to dream, but you and only you can make the dream attainable.

Best of Luck!
 
It has been a long day so I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way...

Matas,

I don't know what to think of you. It appears that you area smart kid who is pulling peoples' chains. You answer every suggestion with some variation on the "Woe is me" theme. Woe means bad luck. You also use terrible grammar with what seems to be deliberate vengeance.

If you are not jerking these decent posters around then do the following:

1)Get with a school counselor, your parents or someone other than your math teacher, who apparently can't be bothered, and figure out the math issue. If you are getting all A's and failing math, there is a problem. This should have been flagged last year.

2)Tell your English teacher to read your writing with a critical eye. Give him/her your postings from this board for starters.

3)Start taking PSAT/SAT/ACT's now. Take them with a purpose. The purpose is to learn how to take standardized tests. There is a method to taking them which is not taught in your high school classes. If you aspire to the military there will be many standardized tests. How well you do on the Math ACT/SAT could give insight into the classroom issue.

4)Forget about the military and this forum for one year and concentrate on school, sports, church, your car or whatever. Just be a well-rounded good guy. These are your golden years. For every gung ho poster on this board who appears to have had everything figured out by age 13, there are many in SA's, ROTC and OCS, like my DS's who figured it out late, for reasons I still don't fully understand.

Its fine to dream, but you and only you can make the dream attainable.

Best of Luck!

+1

And Amen. Time for this tortured thread to end.
 
Matas,

Most schools round up all jrs. in October and give the exam to them whether they like it or not at school. The PSAT is like the SAT, it is given on the exact same day across the nation. Start studying for it now. Geometry will be a nice portion part of that exam regarding Math. Another reason to buckle down now, and get it. They will have higher Math questions too, so taking the SAT this spring will also help you.

I would talk to your GC if they offer it at your school, if not ask where you can take it. I cannot stress to you enough by not taking it that you may be losing merit money in droves. Colleges really rely on this for applicant recruitment in multiple ways.

Another reason to take the SAT/ACT often besides becoming accustomed to the exam is many colleges have a new system called automatic acceptance. It was offered to all of my children from their safety schools. Essentially, because these colleges know the min. they want for SAT/ACT and see that you made the bar, they send you a letter stating, the application fee is waived, all they need to do is send a transcript with their scores and they are accepted.

Matas, if your school uses a 5.0 scale, I still can't see you having a wcgpa of 4.5 because the only honors you have is the one where you had a C as a freshman, and F now.

The way a scale typically works is the 5.0 would be the weight for AP. 4.5 for honors, and a 4.0 for std. Hence, the word weighted. You can have all A's in your std. class, but when you multiply a 80 (assuming you are a 7 pt scale) by 4.5, that weight is actually 3.4, and your cgpa would avg out to be below 4.0, and not even near a 4.5.

Now, if your school gives every class a 5.0 scale BEWARE, when you apply for USNA and NROTC they will weight to their system, which is not a 5.0 for APs, I am almost 100% positive it is a 4.5., 4.0 for std. Your cgpa will surely drop by at least 1 full point, if not more due to the low amt of honors you are taking. I'd be shocked if your cgpa by their stds right now is higher than a 3.4 wcgpa. 6 classes (std) all A's, 1 at an F, = 24.0 credits, divided by 7 equals 3.4, splatter 2 B's in there, and you now are at a 3.1.

In that case it works for you for NAPS against you for USNA and NROTC scholarships.

You are in front of the 8 ball right now because you are learning about the system and how it works, for not only SAs, ROTC, but also college admission. Be smart, take that information and use it.

OBTW, the cliche you noted is my favorite too, I think you meant to say was EXPECT the worst, but hope for the best, not EXCEPT.

I do agree with others it feels like you have a woe is me attitude. As I said that is my favorite cliche, but I always say hope for the best, but expect the worst. It sounds silly to me, but it is like do you see the glass 1/2 full or 1/2 empty? Placing hope 1st is the glass 1/2 full. Placing it 2nd, is the glass 1/2 empty. Setting yourself up for no chance.

OBTW, when you sign up with collegeboard for the SAT/ACT you can get the option of having a test question emailed to you everyday. It helps if you do it, because some of these questions will pop up on the exam. Also remember that the SAT and ACT are different in scoring...can't recall, but I believe any answer, even the wrong answer gives you points on the SAT, but on that is not true for the ACT. Additionally one is based on foundation, the other is more critical thinking.
 
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Most schools round up all jrs. in October and give the exam to them whether they like it or not at school.
That may be true but don't rely on it. Our school didn't. You had to sign and pay up ahead of time. Our son thought he had signed up but evidently did not and wasn't able to take the test his junior year. No National merit scholarship for him! No soup for him either. :biggrin:
Find out how your school handles it.
 
kinnem,

That is why I said talk to the GC now. In our county in VA, and where we lived in NC, they were rounded up, and we did not pay for the test.

Honestly, when I was in HS, it was you paid for it and took it on a Sat. in Oct., like the SAT, so I was surprised when one night at dinner I asked DS1 how was school today?

Fine, we didn't have class until noon because we took the PSAT

:eek: was my reaction. I had not a clue they were going to do it, and asked if he studied?

Nope!

He got a 213. NMSF. 6 months later when he took his 1st SAT, he got a 2120. He took it a 2nd time and got a 2190. Didn't study for them either, even though we spent the money to buy the SAT computer program.

Same thing happened for DD and DS2 in VA. Both of their results mimicked their SAT score when you followed the rule of thumb by adding a 0 behind the PSAT.

All 3 of our kids took the ACT, and all 3 of them when it was converted to the SAT std. did much better. ACT in our area is a test you can book for a late setting and get in because SAT is the more common test. You wouldn't dream of waiting to book an SAT late unless you want to drive 45 mins to get a seat.

We only did the ACT with DS1 because Notre Dame required it for admission, at that time SAT was not accepted. After seeing that he was more successful with that test, we repeated it for the other 2 even though their college choices accepted both the SAT and ACT.
 
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