aerospace1
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So I am not happy in the military anymore and I want to quit AFROTC, but I am an AS300. What are my options?
I want to quit AFROTC
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aerospace1
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Yes I contracted my freshman year
Didn't you just submit your application for Project Go about a week ago. Have you withdrawn that application?
Unfortunately the AF holds all the options at this point, if you withdraw now you just have to go with what they decide as far as your obligation is concerned. Hopefully you are not attending a school with high tuition cost, remember that the AF pays the full rack rate for tuition and payback is based on that rate. I assume it's to late for you to withdraw from this semester and get any refund from the school, so you will be on the hook for this semester's tuition as well.
Ensure that you are making your decision based on long term, you have been in this program for quite some time now and you and the Air Force have invested a lot of time in this process. This is not a decision that needs to be based on a bad week or personal issues with someone in the detachment. You decided to go through a significant screening process to get where you are and, by taking an EA slot over the summer, you prevented someone else from getting where you are. Slow down, think clearly, and remove the emotion from the process.
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I agree zrx the OP needs to think about this and he should discuss it with not only the cadre, but also his folks.
AFROTC and ADAF are two different worlds, except maybe the BS that you have to put up with.
I would also suggest reaching out to someone that graduated from your detachment , especially if they are in the same AFSC that you wanted.
~ At our DSs unit every cadet as a 100 was set up with a 300 as a mentor/confidant. If they do that at yours than your mentor would probably be AD by now. The only ones that may not be in their field yet would be rated, however they are probably on casual status. Our DS received many messages via FB during the time he was at UPT from cadets that he mentored asking for advice and guidance. His mentoring in essence did not end when he graduated.
Honestly, even if you disenrolled today, you would still be on the hook and maybe even in a bigger predicament than just financial. You probably have registered for spring classes already. Check with your bursar to see if the revocation will lock your account. That might mean they will drop the classes your already registered for, and by the time you fix it your classes may be full and now you are scrambling for the classes you need to stay on track for graduating May 2016.
~ I know with my 3 kids that when they hit their junior year the classes are offered less frequently for their major. IE for our DS several of his higher level courses required a lower level class. The higher would only be offered 1x a year. Hence, if that class is only offered in the spring, and you get locked out you could land up having even bigger problems than just the debt come spring.
Take deep breaths and approach the decision logically, not emotionally.
One other option you might want to also talk to the CoC to see if maybe they will allow you go Guard. This will allow you do move on with life, but not get hit with the bill.
AFROTC and ADAF are two different worlds, except maybe the BS that you have to put up with.
I would also suggest reaching out to someone that graduated from your detachment , especially if they are in the same AFSC that you wanted.
~ At our DSs unit every cadet as a 100 was set up with a 300 as a mentor/confidant. If they do that at yours than your mentor would probably be AD by now. The only ones that may not be in their field yet would be rated, however they are probably on casual status. Our DS received many messages via FB during the time he was at UPT from cadets that he mentored asking for advice and guidance. His mentoring in essence did not end when he graduated.
Honestly, even if you disenrolled today, you would still be on the hook and maybe even in a bigger predicament than just financial. You probably have registered for spring classes already. Check with your bursar to see if the revocation will lock your account. That might mean they will drop the classes your already registered for, and by the time you fix it your classes may be full and now you are scrambling for the classes you need to stay on track for graduating May 2016.
~ I know with my 3 kids that when they hit their junior year the classes are offered less frequently for their major. IE for our DS several of his higher level courses required a lower level class. The higher would only be offered 1x a year. Hence, if that class is only offered in the spring, and you get locked out you could land up having even bigger problems than just the debt come spring.
Take deep breaths and approach the decision logically, not emotionally.
One other option you might want to also talk to the CoC to see if maybe they will allow you go Guard. This will allow you do move on with life, but not get hit with the bill.
With all the cutbacks and free releases going on I would not be surprised if you were able to walk away free and clear. Talk to you cadre, you never know what can happen till they hand you your options. Even if you tell them your thinking about it does not mean you have to do it, they -should- help you through the process and let you know what your options are, we had a cadet do the same thing.
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Class of 14 and 15 were allowed to walk.
OP went to SFT this year where non-tech, non-rated had a 15% selection rate.
I am not disagreeing with you zero, but my guess/assumption is with a 55% overall selection rate and forcing cadets to sign rated/non-rated paperwork prior to SFT selection, that boat sailed compared to the 14 and 15 class.
That is something people don't get. The ADAF has ratios. They typically do surgical strikes.
Were the cadets that walked free FY16?
Just to drive it home here are a couple of examples.
ADAF has a officer to enlisted ratio.
~ Cut enlisted and officers will be cut too.
ADAF has a ratio for Flag to Field, Field to Company grade
ADAF has a ratio for each year group.
Look at previous RIFs AF said X commissioning and Y AFSC.
I lived through the bloodbath of 1993 as a spouse. Bullet commissioned in 87. He was safe as an AFROTC commission. Our friends that came back from Gulf I and had Silver Starssent to FWIC (not a typo) were cut because they were AFROTC grads.
Point being if Bullet commissioned in 86 he would have been gone. 87 he was safe. Nobody should ASSUME that because14 and 15s could walk with no debt it Weill be true for 16s, especially when the selection rate overall is 55%, and 15 was 93%.
OP went to SFT this year where non-tech, non-rated had a 15% selection rate.
I am not disagreeing with you zero, but my guess/assumption is with a 55% overall selection rate and forcing cadets to sign rated/non-rated paperwork prior to SFT selection, that boat sailed compared to the 14 and 15 class.
That is something people don't get. The ADAF has ratios. They typically do surgical strikes.
Were the cadets that walked free FY16?
Just to drive it home here are a couple of examples.
ADAF has a officer to enlisted ratio.
~ Cut enlisted and officers will be cut too.
ADAF has a ratio for Flag to Field, Field to Company grade
ADAF has a ratio for each year group.
Look at previous RIFs AF said X commissioning and Y AFSC.
I lived through the bloodbath of 1993 as a spouse. Bullet commissioned in 87. He was safe as an AFROTC commission. Our friends that came back from Gulf I and had Silver Starssent to FWIC (not a typo) were cut because they were AFROTC grads.
Point being if Bullet commissioned in 86 he would have been gone. 87 he was safe. Nobody should ASSUME that because14 and 15s could walk with no debt it Weill be true for 16s, especially when the selection rate overall is 55%, and 15 was 93%.
