You can see the regimental calendar on the USMMA website. Fall leave is at the end of first trimester, usually a week off around the first week of November. Three days off for Thanksgiving and two weeks for Christmas. Many plebes who live far away go home for fall break and go to a nearby classmate's home for Thanksgiving. Also keep in mind that if you are A Split, you will miss fall break, Thanksgiving, and Christmas your third class and second class years.
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Are all spring athletes A split?
luqui03
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So I am guessing that a rugby player will be a B split?
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My son was a rugby player and was an A split.. Rugby also has two seasons; so technically you can split either A or B and still play. The primary season is in the fall and the secondary season is in the spring. During the secondary season the teams often set up friendly matches or play rugby sevens.
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Every time it gets more complicated for my brain to understand all the stuff going on at USMMA
Thank you for the explanation
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Do they have any flight clubs or the chance to fly nearby the academy if the time allows them to do that? My son has his pilot's license and I wondering about that.
Yup. I played rugby and was a B split. Two seasons, even back in the olden days. During the spring season, we would get some football players that thought rugby was easy. . . . .
So sorry for a late reply, been getting home to family lol.
Liberty depends on your training staff, plebes currently have sunday liberty from 1000 to 1800.
I had a great time! I know some parents from the area were able to hangout with their plebe for pretty much the whole game after the national anthem
There is an aviation club but I don't think your son will be afforded the chance to use his pilots license during plebe year at least. Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear haha
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No problem, it is what it is haha
As someone interested in Marine Transportation, how do you like the courses in the major? And how is your plebe year going so far?
If any other kp grads or cadets are here please talk about your experience. I’m just curious about how y’all like or liked your time at kp. Thanks!!
If any other kp grads or cadets are here please talk about your experience. I’m just curious about how y’all like or liked your time at kp. Thanks!!
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hi, sorry this took me so long, had a pretty busy saturday/friday.
I am currently in that major and I am enjoying it far more than I would have enjoyed being on the engine side of things. For first trimester all plebes take both an introduction to engineering and an introduction to deck studies class which kind of gives you a taste of both sides if you're undecided.
Currently I am taking terrestrial navigation, navigation law and ship stability and construction which are just basic navigation and rules of the road courses. I would say that it is an enjoyable major.
How is plebe year going? Not going to lie to you, feeling pretty burnt out right now but just trying to push to the end of the trimester and to recognition. I think someone said today that we are closer to recognition season than we are to parents weekend so that's pretty motivating.
I've lost a lot of friends this year due to setbacks/resignations and this year has presented many challenges (like the 0000-0400 watch I am about to have tonight due to covid) and it's incredibly hard to remain positive sometimes but I can for sure say that it is worth it. Also, seeing '26s pop up reminds me that I wont be a 4/c forever haha.
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When we visited last August, the person giving us the tour, told us that in the first 2 weeks, 11 people left. 7 for medical reasons, 4 because they quit. I am guessing that a few more left between August and January.
does the number of 2025 leavers impact the # of appointments given out for 2026ers?
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great question, hopefully someone can answer it
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Pretty sure we’ve lost 37 people total so far. I wish I was qualified to tell you if setback appointments impacted 2026 but that’s a bit above my pay grade and anything I say would be pure speculation. sorry
The number of plebes disenrolled has very little or no impact on the numbers for the incoming class. There is traditionally a large number of plebes who are disenrolled or set back every year. When they are set back, they join the class that comes after them which makes up for most of the loss from the new class.
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I cannot speak to USMMA specifically, but at the DoD schools - yes it does have a positive impact. Each school is funded to have a prescribed number of students. Let's use 4000 for discussion sake. Over the years, the schools tend to increase the number of students and there was a point within the last 10 years that Congress stepped in and said GET DOWN TO AUTHORIZED LEVELS. My memory is fuzzy, but I want to say USAFA did it in a single admissions cycle while USNA and USMA completed this reduction in 3 years. The "reduction" came from admitting fewer students, there was no great purge of existing students).
If we had 4100 students on campus and graduated 873, but needed to be at 4000....
4100
-873 (graduated)
-12 (failed out)
-10 (voluntarily departed for other reasons)
(etc.)
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3205 enrolled
4000 (authorized)
-3205 enrolled
_______
795 seats remaining + historic BCT attrition rates and such = how many appointees you can have on day 1
While hypothetical, my example shows a little of what goes into how they determine how many appointments to offer. For the most part, the class will have MORE THAN 1000 people enter the class on day 1, but other factors impact the true number.
To that point, if there is a greater level of attrition in the upper three classes, that would open additional seats for the incoming class - and has historically at the DoD schools.
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That ssems like a large number. Is that normal?