Illegal Substance Question

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My friend Joh Doe is filling out an AROTC 3 yr scholarship medical form, and he was asked on it if he has ever used an illegal substance or drug. He has never done drugs, or drank. The most he had ever done was smoke a cigar once while with friends. John was 16 when he did this. Would this be necessary to be put on the form? Asking for a friend. Thank you
 
My friend Joh Doe is filling out an AROTC 3 yr scholarship medical form, and he was asked on it if he has ever used an illegal substance or drug. He has never done drugs, or drank. The most he had ever done was smoke a cigar once while with friends. John was 16 when he did this. Would this be necessary to be put on? Asking for a friend. Thank you
While it is illegal to sell tobacco to minors, it is not illegal for a minor to smoke tobacco. So the answer on the form would be “no.”
 
While it is illegal to sell tobacco to minors, it is not illegal for a minor to smoke tobacco. So the answer on the form would be “no.”
Amazingly that is correct. So your four year olds can g’head and light up if the stress of preschool is affecting them. Just can’t buy the products.

appreciate the OP asking but you are good to shorten your lifespan as long as you don’t buy the poisonous product. and also good to apply to ROTC too. Heck apply and smoke simultaneously if you wish.

I don’t smoke but maybe I would have if I knew this fact while in kindergarten. Those ABCs and that darn 64 pack of crayons s and picking the right shade was stressful man.
 

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I had to look to verify that. At least here in California, up until the legal age changes to 21 in 2017, it was illegal for a minor to possess tobacco products. Sure enough that law has been amended to remove the prohibition. If you're 18 and want to buy tobacco products legally, join the military. An 18 year old can buy with active duty military ID.
 
Alright thanks for the help guys! there are no plans to smoke in the future, it was just a one time thing to try it out. Thanks again!
 
My friend Joh Doe is filling out an AROTC 3 yr scholarship medical form, and he was asked on it if he has ever used an illegal substance or drug. He has never done drugs, or drank. The most he had ever done was smoke a cigar once while with friends. John was 16 when he did this. Would this be necessary to be put on the form? Asking for a friend. Thank you

Sigh.

Remember when smoke breaks were part of accepted military culture, with an NCO barking out "Some 'em if you got 'em!"

In 1982 mine was the first platoon at Parris Island that prohibited smoking by recruits. A real hardship back in those days! It was amazing how many cigarette butts could be found on the ground all over Parris Island, which would recruits would furtively pick up and save for later. We also hard cleanup details in which we picked up butts too. A gold mine for smokers! Matches were harder to find. Sometimes a non-Drill Instructor type enlisted Marine would take pity, like on a work detail or something, and give up some matches. They were prized possessions. Opportunities to actually take a puff were few, but we found them.

Conclusion: Prohibition never works. Supply-and-demand capitalism always wins. Free markets and all.

Later on we would use cheap American smokes as currency on Okinawa, paying local cab drivers ("honchos") with packs of Marlboros and Camels instead of money. With the relatively cheap price of smokes on US bases, compared to the high cost off-base (where high Japanese sin taxes were a thing way before they were they were in the USA), we got cheap cab rides & the honchos got inexpensive tobacco. Win-win! Good for US-Japanese relations!

I haven't had a cigarette since May of 1997 & surely don't regretting quitting the habit, but sometimes I still get the urge. I can still remember my favorite Zippo like an old friend. I can feel it in my hand like an amputee "feels" a missing leg.
 
Found out from my DS that upon surfacing in submarine 'X', the Captain invited him onto the bridge (top of vessel?) and offered him a Nicaraguan cigar. They visited, chatted, and soaked in the calm dark waters of ocean 'X'. He said it was a memory he will treasure.
(as an aside, I looked up the cigars, the Captain has great and pricey taste, and was kind to share and mentor my kid)
 
Found out from my DS that upon surfacing in submarine 'X', the Captain invited him onto the bridge (top of vessel?) and offered him a Nicaraguan cigar. They visited, chatted, and soaked in the calm dark waters of ocean 'X'. He said it was a memory he will treasure.
(as an aside, I looked up the cigars, the Captain has great and pricey taste, and was kind to share and mentor my kid)
That Captain is a natural recruiter. The glam life of submarines 😉. The best part is that ocean at night. Add in a canopy of Southern Hemisphere stars, a trail of phosphorescence, some dolphins in the bow wave…
 
That Captain is a natural recruiter. The glam life of submarines 😉. The best part is that ocean at night. Add in a canopy of Southern Hemisphere stars, a trail of phosphorescence, some dolphins in the bow wave…
No kidding, my kid was considering subs, not it's top of his list. He said it really was peaceful and quite beautiful. He's anti-smoking but now has to admit he might enjoy a quality cigar every now and then---in the right company.
 
Yes they recruited heavily. My Mid included. And all his buddies. They had a ball. And felt “special”. It was thick. Plus a lot of talk about the $$ bonuses $$.

I’ve said it before, but it’ll be interesting to see, if this “lack of touches” that ‘22 and ‘23 lost via no PROTRAMID, how that plays out for subs. As a large percentage (I’m recalling 85 pct, off the top of my head, from the director, during the Parents Club Conference) of sub service selection comes directly from hands on such as this. The “ooooooh aaaaaaaaah” factor that happens onboard. Or above board. Or smoking cigars.

Real sub draft maybe 🤔?
 
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That Captain is a natural recruiter. The glam life of submarines 😉. The best part is that ocean at night. Add in a canopy of Southern Hemisphere stars, a trail of phosphorescence, some dolphins in the bow wave…
Well said. My kids 22, 18, and 15 asked what is something I miss about the Navy. Expecting the awesome training or doing XYZ answer. I tell them simply I miss the peaceful nights while underway in the Pacific Ocean standing watch (was an undest seaman before switch to CTM) . The ship cruising through the calm waters. Sometimes the ocean would sparkle at night depending on location.
 
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