Injured at a service academy

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Hi guys,

I'm hoping someone out here can help me since I'm pretty much on my own. I was a part of the Class of 2025 at USNA and I DORed later that December due to medical issues. I had been injured during Plebe Summer when my hips gave out and I was first put on crutches for a few weeks and then in a wheelchair on and off for a while. I had told my upperclass leaders that something felt wrong with my hip when my leg wasn't lifting at all, but I think they thought I was trying to be lazy. It took until second set that someone finally believed me when after going through the C-Course I couldn't walk. I ended up having to stay on chit for most of the rest of my time there. Medical didn't give me a plan to get out of the wheelchair so they just took away my chit near the beginning of the Ac Year and told me to walk. I ended up being forced to do a PRT A DAY AFTER returning my wheelchair, having not walked without assistance in months. Suffice to say, I think this injured my hips even more.

They never figured out what was wrong (did x-rays, MRIs, the works), but I still have chronic pain in my hip even over a year later. It can make it hard to walk somedays and sometimes I can't lift my leg. This has also affected my ability to stay active since I was once an avid runner all through high school and now I can't even walk without a limp most days. If I do end up having to run, I can only make it a very short distance and I end up being in severe pain the rest of the day. Some nights I can't sleep because of it. I have had trouble with choosing jobs since certain ones (like a cashier job) require me to stand all day and even standing that long or putting weight on my hips (specifically the right since that one is usually the worst) can be incredibly painful.

That being said, I don't know where to go from here. Obviously, I need to talk with medical, but my injury is at the point where it doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon. Like I said, it's been over a year and I haven't been able to be active much because of it (ie I haven't strained it worse through my own actions). It simply constantly hurts. Would this be something the VA would be able to help me with? I have been given mixed messages about what my status is (veteran or not) since I got out. FAFSA told me that I would only be considered a Vet if I went to Iraq or Afghanistan but I've looked into it a bit online and read different things, too. I am well aware I don't really count as a "hardcore" vet (sorry I can't think of another way to put it) since I never truly served, and please know I'm absolutely not trying to be disrespectful by trying to compare Plebe Summer to something like Afghanistan. However, I was injured during the training part of the Academy and continued to be injured for the rest of the six months I was there for. Is there any recourse where I can be compensated for this? I'm only 19 and I'm scared I'll be unable to walk normally again for the rest of my life.

Hopefully none of this comes across as disrespectful to Vets, and I really appreciate anyone who is willing to help out.
 
Hi guys,

I'm hoping someone out here can help me since I'm pretty much on my own. I was a part of the Class of 2025 at USNA and I DORed later that December due to medical issues. I had been injured during Plebe Summer when my hips gave out and I was first put on crutches for a few weeks and then in a wheelchair on and off for a while. I had told my upperclass leaders that something felt wrong with my hip when my leg wasn't lifting at all, but I think they thought I was trying to be lazy. It took until second set that someone finally believed me when after going through the C-Course I couldn't walk. I ended up having to stay on chit for most of the rest of my time there. Medical didn't give me a plan to get out of the wheelchair so they just took away my chit near the beginning of the Ac Year and told me to walk. I ended up being forced to do a PRT A DAY AFTER returning my wheelchair, having not walked without assistance in months. Suffice to say, I think this injured my hips even more.

They never figured out what was wrong (did x-rays, MRIs, the works), but I still have chronic pain in my hip even over a year later. It can make it hard to walk somedays and sometimes I can't lift my leg. This has also affected my ability to stay active since I was once an avid runner all through high school and now I can't even walk without a limp most days. If I do end up having to run, I can only make it a very short distance and I end up being in severe pain the rest of the day. Some nights I can't sleep because of it. I have had trouble with choosing jobs since certain ones (like a cashier job) require me to stand all day and even standing that long or putting weight on my hips (specifically the right since that one is usually the worst) can be incredibly painful.

That being said, I don't know where to go from here. Obviously, I need to talk with medical, but my injury is at the point where it doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon. Like I said, it's been over a year and I haven't been able to be active much because of it (ie I haven't strained it worse through my own actions). It simply constantly hurts. Would this be something the VA would be able to help me with? I have been given mixed messages about what my status is (veteran or not) since I got out. FAFSA told me that I would only be considered a Vet if I went to Iraq or Afghanistan but I've looked into it a bit online and read different things, too. I am well aware I don't really count as a "hardcore" vet (sorry I can't think of another way to put it) since I never truly served, and please know I'm absolutely not trying to be disrespectful by trying to compare Plebe Summer to something like Afghanistan. However, I was injured during the training part of the Academy and continued to be injured for the rest of the six months I was there for. Is there any recourse where I can be compensated for this? I'm only 19 and I'm scared I'll be unable to walk normally again for the rest of my life.

Hopefully none of this comes across as disrespectful to Vets, and I really appreciate anyone who is willing to help out.
Your city or county or the nearest VA facility likely has a trained veterans’ benefits counselor you can consult with on your status and any benefits you are eligible for. The same for veteran non-profit organizations such as Disabled American Veterans (DAV), American Legion, VFW, AMVETS, which have trained volunteer counselors to help you figure this stuff out.

Much will depend on whether you were involuntarily separated in a medical separation; you would have gotten information on VA benefits. If you requested to resign of your own accord, that puts you in a different category of separations. You will need all of your medical records, plus any discharge paperwork from USNA, especially a DD-214 if you got one. The VA looks at what has been documented during periods of AD and makes determinations of any benefits, if eligible. Generally speaking, if it’s not documented in your health records while in AD, the VA has difficulty in determining service-connected disability that stemmed from AD illness or injury. The DOD healthcare system is an entirely separate system from the VA.

You do not have to be a member of the vet organizations to use their services.
Here’s one:



I live in Anne Arundel County, MD. Here’s a sample of county services:
Research your own city, county, state.

You were on active duty status as a midshipman. You may not meet certain criteria for some federal veterans benefits.
 
Sorry to hear you’re going through all this. The CAPT has given you some great advice to follow above. I don’t know nearly as much about this, but I would add that if you don’t recieve the assistance you feel you should, you can contact your local congressional representative’s office. Each rep has staffers dedicated to constituent casework who are there to assist you in getting past rigid federal bureaucracy, and claiming VA benefits is a common one. Sometimes they’re able to make things happen when all else fails. Doesn’t guarantee anything but worth a try if you get denied or blown off.
 
Your city or county or the nearest VA facility likely has a trained veterans’ benefits counselor you can consult with on your status and any benefits you are eligible for. The same for veteran non-profit organizations such as Disabled American Veterans (DAV), American Legion, VFW, AMVETS, which have trained volunteer counselors to help you figure this stuff out.

Much will depend on whether you were involuntarily separated in a medical separation; you would have gotten information on VA benefits. If you requested to resign of your own accord, that puts you in a different category of separations. You will need all of your medical records, plus any discharge paperwork from USNA, especially a DD-214 if you got one. The VA looks at what has been documented during periods of AD and makes determinations of any benefits, if eligible. Generally speaking, if it’s not documented in your health records while in AD, the VA has difficulty in determining service-connected disability that stemmed from AD illness or injury. The DOD healthcare system is an entirely separate system from the VA.

You do not have to be a member of the vet organizations to use their services.
Here’s one:



I live in Anne Arundel County, MD. Here’s a sample of county services:
Research your own city, county, state.

You were on active duty status as a midshipman. You may not meet certain criteria for some federal veterans benefits.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this out for me, I really appreciate it!!!! I will follow your advice :)
 
Sorry to hear you’re going through all this. The CAPT has given you some great advice to follow above. I don’t know nearly as much about this, but I would add that if you don’t recieve the assistance you feel you should, you can contact your local congressional representative’s office. Each rep has staffers dedicated to constituent casework who are there to assist you in getting past rigid federal bureaucracy, and claiming VA benefits is a common one. Sometimes they’re able to make things happen when all else fails. Doesn’t guarantee anything but worth a try if you get denied or blown off.
Thank you. It could always be a lot worse and I'm grateful for that. As for reaching out to my congressional representatives, I didn't even think of that actually. Thank you!!! That will definitely be my backup if I have trouble with the VA.
 
If you have mislaid your DD-214:
 
If you have mislaid your DD-214:
Yes, that's a concern since I haven't looked at my records since I left. Though I'm usually pretty organized, I may have to ask for copies if possible.
 
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Have you seen a Rheumatologist? Kids can get RA at a very early age … and it can start in your hips.

I had my 1st artificial hip done on my left side at age 30 … you shouldn’t need a wheelchair … you are strong … crutches work just fine.

My right hip and right ankle were replaced with artificial joints at age 48.

… and a lot other stuff too ….

I am 60 now and I am not slowing down …

You just keep moving forward and always stay positive and stay active and stay “Productive”

It’s hard not to think about your Pain and Mental anguish … but you have to do your best to try not to think about it so that you can make progress …

…. Go back to school … get a career that really excites you … and do all the hobbies and physical activities that keep you healthy.

You have to start moving forward now or you may never get yourself out of this rut that you are in.
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All good advice above.
Are you seeking medical care? Take care of yourself first.

Have you tried nonimpact exercises such as swimming/yoga that can help with hips specifically?

I had sciatica for over a decade (not saying that is what you have, I'm not a doc and don't play one of tv), but I know that yoga, pilates, and swimming were all exercises that provided me relief; that and a proper diagnosis.
 
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Have you seen a Rheumatologist? Kids can get RA at a very early age … and it can start in your hips.

I had my 1st artificial hip done on my left side at age 30 … you shouldn’t need a wheelchair … you are strong … crutches work just fine.

My right hip and right ankle were replaced with artificial joints at age 48.

… and a lot other stuff too ….

I am 60 now and I am not slowing down …

You just keep moving forward and always stay positive and stay active and stay “Productive”

It’s hard not to think about your Pain and Mental anguish … but you have to do your best to try not to think about it so that you can make progress …

…. Go back to school … get a career that really excites you … and do all the hobbies and physical activities that keep you healthy.

You have to start moving forward now or you may never get yourself out of this rut that you are in.
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I don't think they ever considered that. They only told me it must have been a "bad strain". I'll be going to my doc's soon and I'll definitely be sure to bring that up!!

Thank you for the positivity. It has been a bit difficult but I'm at a new school and I've figured out a career that makes me happy :) Thank you for the wise words.
 
All good advice above.
Are you seeking medical care? Take care of yourself first.

Have you tried nonimpact exercises such as swimming/yoga that can help with hips specifically?

I had sciatica for over a decade (not saying that is what you have, I'm not a doc and don't play one of tv), but I know that yoga, pilates, and swimming were all exercises that provided me relief; that and a proper diagnosis.
To be totally honest after coming back from USNA I didn't really have the chance to go to the doctor's (or anyone that plays one on tv lol) since so much change was happening so quickly. Now that I'm settled at a new school I'll be setting up a visit soon. I have horrible balance so I'm not sure about yoga, but I'll definitely try to make good use of the University pool! I've heard that helps with reducing impact. I may need some floaties at first though...

Thank you!!
 
Hi guys,

I'm hoping someone out here can help me since I'm pretty much on my own. I was a part of the Class of 2025 at USNA and I DORed later that December due to medical issues. I had been injured during Plebe Summer when my hips gave out and I was first put on crutches for a few weeks and then in a wheelchair on and off for a while. I had told my upperclass leaders that something felt wrong with my hip when my leg wasn't lifting at all, but I think they thought I was trying to be lazy. It took until second set that someone finally believed me when after going through the C-Course I couldn't walk. I ended up having to stay on chit for most of the rest of my time there. Medical didn't give me a plan to get out of the wheelchair so they just took away my chit near the beginning of the Ac Year and told me to walk. I ended up being forced to do a PRT A DAY AFTER returning my wheelchair, having not walked without assistance in months. Suffice to say, I think this injured my hips even more.

They never figured out what was wrong (did x-rays, MRIs, the works), but I still have chronic pain in my hip even over a year later. It can make it hard to walk somedays and sometimes I can't lift my leg. This has also affected my ability to stay active since I was once an avid runner all through high school and now I can't even walk without a limp most days. If I do end up having to run, I can only make it a very short distance and I end up being in severe pain the rest of the day. Some nights I can't sleep because of it. I have had trouble with choosing jobs since certain ones (like a cashier job) require me to stand all day and even standing that long or putting weight on my hips (specifically the right since that one is usually the worst) can be incredibly painful.

That being said, I don't know where to go from here. Obviously, I need to talk with medical, but my injury is at the point where it doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon. Like I said, it's been over a year and I haven't been able to be active much because of it (ie I haven't strained it worse through my own actions). It simply constantly hurts. Would this be something the VA would be able to help me with? I have been given mixed messages about what my status is (veteran or not) since I got out. FAFSA told me that I would only be considered a Vet if I went to Iraq or Afghanistan but I've looked into it a bit online and read different things, too. I am well aware I don't really count as a "hardcore" vet (sorry I can't think of another way to put it) since I never truly served, and please know I'm absolutely not trying to be disrespectful by trying to compare Plebe Summer to something like Afghanistan. However, I was injured during the training part of the Academy and continued to be injured for the rest of the six months I was there for. Is there any recourse where I can be compensated for this? I'm only 19 and I'm scared I'll be unable to walk normally again for the rest of my life.

Hopefully none of this comes across as disrespectful to Vets, and I really appreciate anyone who is willing to help out.
Not having specifics on what happened, when it happened, if any waivers were involved, medical treatment you received while at USNA, and your character of discharge (DD-214), I can only second @Capt MJ's comments. Gather any medical evidence, any personnel action, and if it has been less than 12 months since your discharge (the presumptive period for VA purposes), get to an Accredited VSO. Even if you voluntarily resigned, benefit claims can still be filed, and if you are within the 12 month presumptive period if the Navy gave you any diagnoses you can use them to fight for compensation and disability rating. Even if more than 12 months have passed get to a VSO, claims can still be filed, they just won't be presumptive. Another good piece of advice, if you became friends with others while you were there, try and get them to write a statement about your medical troubles, they work wonders with VA (VA Form 21-10210). The file is too large for me to attach, but if you google "Search VA Forms" and type in the form number you can print it out.
 
I work for a veterans organization very much like those referenced above. I would recommend reaching out to your nearest DAV or American Legion service officer (info can be found on their websites) to seek assistance. Do not go to the VA benefits counselor before talking to one of the accredited representatives from one of those organizations. If you don't have any luck there, send me a private message with your contact information and I will have someone connect with you from my organization.
 
Get yourself medical help NOW and worry about the VA benefits later. Expect to be your own advocate. Your regular doctor may say it's a sprain or can't find a reason for it, so try going to a specialist (ortho maybe). Don't give up til you get a diagnosis and treatment plan. You're young and need to nip this in the bud.
 
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