Is a wave coming

[jl123]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2021 was "hers to lose".

Teragram ~ congrats to your DD as well! Did you find out about AOG this week?

Now #1 has declined, but not sure if slot was taken from district this late in game or whether she will now receive direct appointment.

Slot can not be taken away from the district. Only after all qualified candidates in the district have declined the appointment will the space be filled from the NWL. In that case the district will have an extra slate the following year.

That must not be completely accurate because she is 3Q'd, #1 declined and there still seems to be some question whether direct appointment will be made.

It is correct, it's the law. It would be a political nightmare for a MOC if qualified candidates were passed over without filling a vacant slot. Offered candidates have at least until May 1st to accept/decline. It's only mid-April - far too early to scramble to fill openings.

Confusion occurs because the process of charging appointments to MOCS gets complicated - but no qualified and nominated candidate in a district gets passed over until a slate winner accepts the appointment.

My understanding is that if a candidate from a MOC slate is offered an appointment and declines, then WP is not obliged to go to back to the slate and offer another appointment from that MOCs slate. WP has filled the obligation to offer an appointment to a candidate on the slate.

My understanding is that USMA is required to fill the vacancy if there is a qualified candidate. Certainly, that is the way it is done in practice. I could be wrong, but this is the first I have heard anything to the contrary.

 

[Teragram]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2021 was "hers to lose".

Teragram ~ congrats to your DD as well! Did you find out about AOG this week?

Now #1 has declined, but not sure if slot was taken from district this late in game or whether she will now receive direct appointment.

Slot can not be taken away from the district. Only after all qualified candidates in the district have declined the appointment will the space be filled from the NWL. In that case the district will have an extra slate the following year.

That must not be completely accurate because she is 3Q'd, #1 declined and there still seems to be some question whether direct appointment will be made.

It is correct, it's the law. It would be a political nightmare for a MOC if qualified candidates were passed over without filling a vacant slot. Offered candidates have at least until May 1st to accept/decline. It's only mid-April - far too early to scramble to fill openings.

Confusion occurs because the process of charging appointments to MOCS gets complicated - but no qualified and nominated candidate in a district gets passed over until a slate winner accepts the appointment.

My understanding is that if a candidate from a MOC slate is offered an appointment and declines, then WP is not obliged to go to back to the slate and offer another appointment from that MOCs slate. WP has filled the obligation to offer an appointment to a candidate on the slate.

Kind of defeats purpose of having a slate at all then. Each MOC should just send one name (much like principal), WP makes offer, they decline and boom same outcome as what's happening in our district. They move on and give appointment to whoever they want. Really not a good way to treat those that worked hard to get on that congressional or senatorial slate in the first place and are 3Q'd. Not to mention the constituents of district paying for the academies and being passed by for someone anywhere in the country. I know life is not fair, but this sucks (for lack of better word)!

 

[YaTYaS]

Check your portals[emoji631] updates in progress

 

[GoArmyBeatNavy2021]

TWE update for my DD. God has other plans for her this year. I'm proud of her for making it this far and putting in so much effort. Good luck to all the rest waiting to hear back!

 

[BSCAR]

Check your portals[emoji631] updates in progress

How did you know this?

 

[USMA85]

Similar TWE for my DS on the portal today- 4 noms and all the "requisite stuff" just a really talented set of applicants- our nation is in good hands. Plan B in full play.

 

[onepercenter2021]

TWE update for my DD. God has other plans for her this year. I'm proud of her for making it this far and putting in so much effort. Good luck to all the rest waiting to hear back!

Oh sorry to hear!! Best wishes to her for her future.

 

[AirsoftRanger]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2021 was "hers to lose".

Teragram ~ congrats to your DD as well! Did you find out about AOG this week?

Now #1 has declined, but not sure if slot was taken from district this late in game or whether she will now receive direct appointment.

Slot can not be taken away from the district. Only after all qualified candidates in the district have declined the appointment will the space be filled from the NWL. In that case the district will have an extra slate the following year.

That must not be completely accurate because she is 3Q'd, #1 declined and there still seems to be some question whether direct appointment will be made.

It is correct, it's the law. It would be a political nightmare for a MOC if qualified candidates were passed over without filling a vacant slot. Offered candidates have at least until May 1st to accept/decline. It's only mid-April - far too early to scramble to fill openings.

Confusion occurs because the process of charging appointments to MOCS gets complicated - but no qualified and nominated candidate in a district gets passed over until a slate winner accepts the appointment.

My understanding is that if a candidate from a MOC slate is offered an appointment and declines, then WP is not obliged to go to back to the slate and offer another appointment from that MOCs slate. WP has filled the obligation to offer an appointment to a candidate on the slate.

Kind of defeats purpose of having a slate at all then. Each MOC should just send one name (much like principal), WP makes offer, they decline and boom same outcome as what's happening in our district. They move on and give appointment to whoever they want. Really not a good way to treat those that worked hard to get on that congressional or senatorial slate in the first place and are 3Q'd. Not to mention the constituents of district paying for the academies and being passed by for someone anywhere in the country. I know life is not fair, but this sucks (for lack of better word)!

I understood that WP was required to admit a principal nominee, if 3q'd. I understood that many districts do not have principal nominees, and in that case, WP is given the latitude for determining the slate. But doesn't WP not go through those 10 nominees before skipping to the NWL?

 

[Teragram]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2021 was "hers to lose".

Teragram ~ congrats to your DD as well! Did you find out about AOG this week?

Now #1 has declined, but not sure if slot was taken from district this late in game or whether she will now receive direct appointment.

Slot can not be taken away from the district. Only after all qualified candidates in the district have declined the appointment will the space be filled from the NWL. In that case the district will have an extra slate the following year.

That must not be completely accurate because she is 3Q'd, #1 declined and there still seems to be some question whether direct appointment will be made.

It is correct, it's the law. It would be a political nightmare for a MOC if qualified candidates were passed over without filling a vacant slot. Offered candidates have at least until May 1st to accept/decline. It's only mid-April - far too early to scramble to fill openings.

Confusion occurs because the process of charging appointments to MOCS gets complicated - but no qualified and nominated candidate in a district gets passed over until a slate winner accepts the appointment.

My understanding is that if a candidate from a MOC slate is offered an appointment and declines, then WP is not obliged to go to back to the slate and offer another appointment from that MOCs slate. WP has filled the obligation to offer an appointment to a candidate on the slate.

Kind of defeats purpose of having a slate at all then. Each MOC should just send one name (much like principal), WP makes offer, they decline and boom same outcome as what's happening in our district. They move on and give appointment to whoever they want. Really not a good way to treat those that worked hard to get on that congressional or senatorial slate in the first place and are 3Q'd. Not to mention the constituents of district paying for the academies and being passed by for someone anywhere in the country. I know life is not fair, but this sucks (for lack of better word)!

I understood that WP was required to admit a principal nominee, if 3q'd. I understood that many districts do not have principal nominees, and in that case, WP is given the latitude for determining the slate. But doesn't WP not go through those 10 nominees before skipping to the NWL?

That was also my understanding but apparently it is not so since my DD was #2 on slate (as per RC) and when #1 declined they did not offer appointment.

 

[AirsoftRanger]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2021 was "hers to lose".

Teragram ~ congrats to your DD as well! Did you find out about AOG this week?

Now #1 has declined, but not sure if slot was taken from district this late in game or whether she will now receive direct appointment.

Slot can not be taken away from the district. Only after all qualified candidates in the district have declined the appointment will the space be filled from the NWL. In that case the district will have an extra slate the following year.

That must not be completely accurate because she is 3Q'd, #1 declined and there still seems to be some question whether direct appointment will be made.

It is correct, it's the law. It would be a political nightmare for a MOC if qualified candidates were passed over without filling a vacant slot. Offered candidates have at least until May 1st to accept/decline. It's only mid-April - far too early to scramble to fill openings.

Confusion occurs because the process of charging appointments to MOCS gets complicated - but no qualified and nominated candidate in a district gets passed over until a slate winner accepts the appointment.

My understanding is that if a candidate from a MOC slate is offered an appointment and declines, then WP is not obliged to go to back to the slate and offer another appointment from that MOCs slate. WP has filled the obligation to offer an appointment to a candidate on the slate.

Kind of defeats purpose of having a slate at all then. Each MOC should just send one name (much like principal), WP makes offer, they decline and boom same outcome as what's happening in our district. They move on and give appointment to whoever they want. Really not a good way to treat those that worked hard to get on that congressional or senatorial slate in the first place and are 3Q'd. Not to mention the constituents of district paying for the academies and being passed by for someone anywhere in the country. I know life is not fair, but this sucks (for lack of better word)!

I understood that WP was required to admit a principal nominee, if 3q'd. I understood that many districts do not have principal nominees, and in that case, WP is given the latitude for determining the slate. But doesn't WP not go through those 10 nominees before skipping to the NWL?

That was also my understanding but apparently it is not so since my DD was #2 on slate (as per RC) and when #1 declined they did not offer appointment.

did your DD receive the TWE? I see from your previous posts she could do 7 pullups, that is really good...and she was 3q'd very early....november?

 

[Teragram]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2021 was "hers to lose".

Teragram ~ congrats to your DD as well! Did you find out about AOG this week?

Now #1 has declined, but not sure if slot was taken from district this late in game or whether she will now receive direct appointment.

Slot can not be taken away from the district. Only after all qualified candidates in the district have declined the appointment will the space be filled from the NWL. In that case the district will have an extra slate the following year.

That must not be completely accurate because she is 3Q'd, #1 declined and there still seems to be some question whether direct appointment will be made.

It is correct, it's the law. It would be a political nightmare for a MOC if qualified candidates were passed over without filling a vacant slot. Offered candidates have at least until May 1st to accept/decline. It's only mid-April - far too early to scramble to fill openings.

Confusion occurs because the process of charging appointments to MOCS gets complicated - but no qualified and nominated candidate in a district gets passed over until a slate winner accepts the appointment.

My understanding is that if a candidate from a MOC slate is offered an appointment and declines, then WP is not obliged to go to back to the slate and offer another appointment from that MOCs slate. WP has filled the obligation to offer an appointment to a candidate on the slate.

Kind of defeats purpose of having a slate at all then. Each MOC should just send one name (much like principal), WP makes offer, they decline and boom same outcome as what's happening in our district. They move on and give appointment to whoever they want. Really not a good way to treat those that worked hard to get on that congressional or senatorial slate in the first place and are 3Q'd. Not to mention the constituents of district paying for the academies and being passed by for someone anywhere in the country. I know life is not fair, but this sucks (for lack of better word)!

I understood that WP was required to admit a principal nominee, if 3q'd. I understood that many districts do not have principal nominees, and in that case, WP is given the latitude for determining the slate. But doesn't WP not go through those 10 nominees before skipping to the NWL?

That was also my understanding but apparently it is not so since my DD was #2 on slate (as per RC) and when #1 declined they did not offer appointment.

did your DD receive the TWE? I see from your previous posts she could do 7 pullups, that is really good...and she was 3q'd very early....november?

She has been offered an AOG scholarship. She was not 3Q'd until after December, but did receive a LOE with complete application at end of September. Went on overnight beginning of November. Very confusing process for us, but she is very thankful for the prep opportunity as opposed to TWE.

 

[3cmkids]

Those getting TWE notices on your portal, did you receive mail notification first?

 

[onepercenter2021]

I understood that WP was required to admit a principal nominee, if 3q'd. I understood that many districts do not have principal nominees, and in that case, WP is given the latitude for determining the slate. But doesn't WP not go through those 10 nominees before skipping to the NWL?

I'm not sure how it works for those areas where there is no principal nominee determined by MOC because my daughter was one of the 10 AND was put on the NWL right away, but she got an AOG which she/we are very grateful for!

 

[onepercenter2021]

I'm not sure how it works for those areas where there is no principal nominee determined by MOC because my daughter was one of the 10 AND was put on the NWL right away, but she got an AOG which she/we are very grateful for!

And my DD was 3q'd in February.

I understood that WP was required to admit a principal nominee, if 3q'd. I understood that many districts do not have principal nominees, and in that case, WP is given the latitude for determining the slate. But doesn't WP not go through those 10 nominees before skipping to the NWL?

 

[AirsoftRanger]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2021 was "hers to lose".

Teragram ~ congrats to your DD as well! Did you find out about AOG this week?

Now #1 has declined, but not sure if slot was taken from district this late in game or whether she will now receive direct appointment.

Slot can not be taken away from the district. Only after all qualified candidates in the district have declined the appointment will the space be filled from the NWL. In that case the district will have an extra slate the following year.

That must not be completely accurate because she is 3Q'd, #1 declined and there still seems to be some question whether direct appointment will be made.

It is correct, it's the law. It would be a political nightmare for a MOC if qualified candidates were passed over without filling a vacant slot. Offered candidates have at least until May 1st to accept/decline. It's only mid-April - far too early to scramble to fill openings.

Confusion occurs because the process of charging appointments to MOCS gets complicated - but no qualified and nominated candidate in a district gets passed over until a slate winner accepts the appointment.

My understanding is that if a candidate from a MOC slate is offered an appointment and declines, then WP is not obliged to go to back to the slate and offer another appointment from that MOCs slate. WP has filled the obligation to offer an appointment to a candidate on the slate.

Kind of defeats purpose of having a slate at all then. Each MOC should just send one name (much like principal), WP makes offer, they decline and boom same outcome as what's happening in our district. They move on and give appointment to whoever they want. Really not a good way to treat those that worked hard to get on that congressional or senatorial slate in the first place and are 3Q'd. Not to mention the constituents of district paying for the academies and being passed by for someone anywhere in the country. I know life is not fair, but this sucks (for lack of better word)!

I understood that WP was required to admit a principal nominee, if 3q'd. I understood that many districts do not have principal nominees, and in that case, WP is given the latitude for determining the slate. But doesn't WP not go through those 10 nominees before skipping to the NWL?

That was also my understanding but apparently it is not so since my DD was #2 on slate (as per RC) and when #1 declined they did not offer appointment.

did your DD receive the TWE? I see from your previous posts she could do 7 pullups, that is really good...and she was 3q'd very early....november?

She has been offered an AOG scholarship. She was not 3Q'd until after December, but did receive a LOE with complete application at end of September. Went on overnight beginning of November. Very confusing process for us, but she is very thankful for the prep opportunity as opposed to TWE.

Is marion military academy covered by the AOG?

 

[Teragram]

Yes that is one of the schools that you can use AOG scholarship. That is where DD is planning on going.

 

[jllera1]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2022 was "hers to lose".

That's great. Congratulations to your DD

 

[rlrmilitarymom]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2022 was "hers to lose".

That's great. Congratulations to your DD

CONGRATULATIONS to you and your DD! God bless and best of luck

 

[Teragram]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2022 was "hers to lose".

That's great. Congratulations to your DD

CONGRATULATIONS to you and your DD! God bless and best of luck

Thank you!

 

[jllera1]

My DD's wait is finally over. Phone call yesterday was told 99.9% no chance of direct appointment for class of 2021 but.....Phone call this morning....AOG Scholarship! MMI 2017-2018. USMA Class of 2022 Door is Open!!!

Who called you? The RC? Does an AOG scholarship ensure appointment next year?

DD also received AOG and basically was told appointment for Class of 2022 was "hers to lose".

That's great. Congratulations to your DD

CONGRATULATIONS to you and your DD! God bless and best of luck

Thank you! I heard that 5 female cadets came out of our area. 2 were blue chip, 2 were recruited athletes and then my DD. I asked the FFR how and she said if WP wants them, then they figure out a way. I kinda wish she had an extra year in USMAPS/Prep , but she is super excited.