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Zaphod

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The misconception that MOCs can swap or trade nominations has not been true since the ‘70s.
Thanks for that clarification. I regret I was one of those who fell for the rumor. It's been a LONG time since I've had to deal directly with this.

In order to ensure I understand this, and therefore to not lead others astray, I have an example that is usually used to describe the scenario...

Candidate applies to MOC and to Senators, wanting to attend USNA. MOC has full slate for USNA, while a Senator does not. Can MOC and Senators "swap" candidate nominations in ANY significant way, especially to prevent one candidate from getting three nominations (MOC and 2 Senators) rather than three candidates getting one each?
 

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Candidate applies to MOC and to Senators, wanting to attend USNA. MOC has full slate for USNA, while a Senator does not. Can MOC and Senators "swap" candidate nominations in ANY significant way, especially to prevent one candidate from getting three nominations (MOC and 2 Senators) rather than three candidates getting one each?
I think it highly unlikely that a candidate would not make his local MOC's list and be granted a nomination by his Senator. But yes, sometimes with CGO's guidance, nomination lists are modified. And a lot of highly competitive areas will sort out names before hand, perhaps having the Senator go first and then the local MOC can ignore those nominees.
 

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Thank you for the info. The question that I don't see addressed often is how the whole athletic recruit factors into this. If someone was being recruited by more than one SA, and got a nom to one, would the other procure a nom from another source? Is it true that basically, if the coach wants you and you are 3qed, you are in?
 

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Athletic recruits are more on a case-by-case basis. Yes, if one is 3qed and the coach wants that individual, it can be enough. However, each coach, at least at USNA with the exception of football, is limited to very few in this category, just a couple per year. And as I stated above, if the academy truly wants an individual, whether it be the normal process or for athletics, they may work with the MOCs to secure after-the-fact nominations.
 

Just_A_Mom

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There are 50 nominations available from the Superintendent - I am not sure but I think they use these sometimes for athletes that don't get a MOC nomination.
 

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I think it highly unlikely that a candidate would not make his local MOC's list and be granted a nomination by his Senator.
Agreed.

But yes, sometimes with CGO's guidance, nomination lists are modified. And a lot of highly competitive areas will sort out names before hand, perhaps having the Senator go first and then the local MOC can ignore those nominees.
Makes sense. Thanks. :redface:
 

Just_A_Mom

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I think it highly unlikely that a candidate would not make his local MOC's list and be granted a nomination by his Senator
In most states and congressional districts - in Delaware there are 2 senators and 1 representative - in several states there are only 2 congressional districts this also would not apply.

But - I think in most states they sort of work together. MOC's have a vested interest in granting maximizing the number of nominations. This is one way they can truly have an impact on the lives of their constituents.
 

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USNA69,

Thanks for such a clear description of the process. Even better than most of the moms could provide. :shake:
 

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In most states and congressional districts - in Delaware there are 2 senators and 1 representative - in several states there are only 2 congressional districts this also would not apply.
This is worse than over on the dark side. If there are equal numbers of senators and congressmen, it would not necessarily apply since the slates should essentially be the same, only if the states are highly competitive. Therefore, your scenario might be a factor in Hawaii, Alaska, Delaware, and maybe New Hampshire, maybe affecting 15 of the 1500 annual offers, or 1%. I did say highly unlikely. I will stick with it.:rolleyes:
 

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Internship

I'm looking to intern for my M.O.C Nikki Tsongas...i've heard conflicting information about when to do so... is it in the summer entering your junior year or senior?:help:
 

2011's Mom

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Be sure your MOC office knows you want to get a nomination from them prior to interning. Many MOC's won't allow a Service Academy Candidate to intern because it can be interpreted as favortism if they give the nomination.

Most MOC's take interns at any time of year.
 
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