Jacks Valley - updates?

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Grandma2MMS

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My granddaughter is in Jacks Valley this week. As a grandparent, I don't have access to the parent Facebook group, so I miss out on any news of what's going on that is shared. I would love to hear any updates that anyone with access could share.

I've seen the tent substitutes on the Webguy blog. Anyone know how many cadets there are per shelter? Do they have cots? Also wondering about the two large structures. I'm guessing at least one is the cafeteria.

Thanks for any info you can share.
 
It looks like 8ish per shelter, in bunk beds. They are spread out doing different activities, based on their squadron. Not sure who is where today.
 
When did they switch to shelters over tents? Did those old @$$ tents finally bite the dust?!
 
I made a comment on another site about no tents. The USAFA administrator explained to me (and anyone reading) that they don't do tents because AF personnel deploy and live in prefabricated buildings, conexes, etc., and they want the training to be realistic.

My thought was the teamwork built during the setting up of the tent, but hey what do I know?
 
flieger83 said:
I made a comment on another site about no tents. The USAFA administrator explained to me (and anyone reading) that they don't do tents because AF personnel deploy and live in prefabricated buildings, conexes, etc., and they want the training to be realistic.

My thought was the teamwork built during the setting up of the tent, but hey what do I know?
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Forgive me, that reply to you was so Air Force - but it also demonstrates that commitment to QOL all the other services kid them about. I liked your reasoning.
 
flieger83 said:
My thought was the teamwork built during the setting up of the tent, but hey what do I know?
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My initial thought as well. You are 3 weeks into the group when you hit Jack's Valley and things are starting to work more smoothly. There was also an element of leadership that seemed to emerge from individuals within your BCT flight. Obviously there are other ways to build a team, but that one seemed built into the program in a way that felt natural and unsuspecting to those going through the experience. Unlike the Leadership Reaction Course that is intentional in it's team building exercises.

I have to assume they can open the windows because the evening breeze was a plus after the hot days.

The weather did get a little gnarly out there and the lighting always seemed like a risk to participants, so I would have to think that these shelters offer risk mitigation in that regard. I remember a serious incident at a National Scout Jamboree where several died pitching large tents like the old style shelters.
 
Capt MJ said:
that reply to you was so Air Force
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In a way, we always would complain that things at USAFA were "nothing like the Real Air Force." So to that end, I do applaud them. However, even at my other duty stations, we would still have the same complaint --- that things done locally were always different than the "Real Air Force" and it led me to realize there really was no such thing. There are only the ways done where you are and the way others do it. When we do not like the way it is done where we are, we always reference the preferred way done by others. And......... we still do that outside of the military. Weird.
 
flieger83 said:
I made a comment on another site about no tents. The USAFA administrator explained to me (and anyone reading) that they don't do tents because AF personnel deploy and live in prefabricated buildings, conexes, etc., and they want the training to be realistic.

My thought was the teamwork built during the setting up of the tent, but hey what do I know?
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I agree with points made about being a teamwork exercise to put up a tent … living in one for 3 weeks also let’s you know how good you have it later … 😁
 
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