January 15th Letter

Christcorp said:
I see mentioned here about having a "Principal" nomination. If that in fact is true; and candidate is 100% qualified; then there's absolutely no reason not to expect an appointment. It is possible that the "Principal" nominee was deferred so the academy can see how they are going to handle a few others from the district/state and how the academy wants to move around nominations that are in common.

My suggestion: If an individual truly does have a "Principal" nomination, and their application is 100% qualified, then I suggest contacting your ALO. Have him/her check on your status and have them inquire with admissions the real status. Because once the dust settles, if in fact an individual has a Principal nomination and they are 100% qualified, the academy doesn't have a choice here. They have to give that individual an appointment. Unfortunately, on the forums, we don't always get all the information. We've even had some that were either told by their MOC staff incorrectly or they way they interpreted it, that they received a "Principal" nomination, when in fact the MOC didn't rank the actual slate at all. The individual may have been the MOC's "Best" applicant, but what they submitted to the academy for a slate of 10 names was in fact a "Competitive" list and not a ranked list or a Principal/Competitive list.

So check with your ALO. Verify you have a "Principal" nomination, and have your ALO do some investigating for you. Best of luck. Mike....
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Thanks Mike. I will have him do so. He had 2 other nominations as well, from another MOC and Presidential, so they could be trying to maneuver him around to get more people.
 
Deferred here in NY too. Bummer! But better than the "thanks but no thanks" letter. Glad the forum explained it all so DS (and we) were prepared. After reading the way the decisions are made, really think that the EA is misleading, and only works if your MOC selects a principal.
 
I have been monitoring the forums for the past couple months, but I just had to create an account specifically for this post. Like most, I was deferred this morning. So does this mean that we won't be hearing a word for the next two months? I recall seeing a post that mentioned someone being deferred then receiving an appointment days after. What I'm asking is, will the board still meet?
Thank you.
 
Deferred from MD. Kinda expected but was trying to be optimistic. Did learn that I got a nomination via my portal so that was at least slightly positive.
 
So I don't know if this will help anyone or not but here it goes:

I too am a candidate this year for the class of 2019 after having been rejected last year and got deferred this morning. Right now, I'm in the exact same boat as last year (have a principle nomination, medically qualified, all that good stuff). Last year I heard the second week of April that I was not receiving an apt because USAFA pushed back the deadline multiple times. For the whole three months leading up to it I made myself sick over it and watched this forum day after day with the mobile app on my phone. DON'T DO IT! You'll just kill yourself trying to make sense of every little bit of info USAFA puts out to people. And just for the record, everything wound up turning out perfect. I got into the Virginia Military Institute, got an AFROTC scholarship, and am now one of the top in my class both academically and physically. Tbh, I'm just concentrated on breakout in 16 days and don't even worry about the academy and my mind is much more at peace. So do yourself a favor and get off this website! Rah Virginia Mil! #Breakout2015
 
shinycars said:
Was really pulling and praying for great news to you baileydb!
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Thank you! I appreciate all of the support I have gotten so far from everyone all around. Even my customers ask daily "when will you hear?"
I appreciate all of the encouragement everyone on this forum has provided to all of us hopeful 2019-ers!
Best of luck to everyone!
 
paulkim1031 said:
Keep your heads up and keep improve your resume!
Only the tops get chosen for the Early Action.
I was deferred too for the early action last year, but didn't give up my hope.
Among my friends here at USAFA, I do not know that many that were selected at Early Action.
Most of them received their appointment around mid-March like myself.
Just keep working hard and don't give up!
You all got this! :D
Ask any questions if guys have any.

U.S Air Force Academy Class of 2018
CS-12 "Dirty Dozen"
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PaulKim1031 thank you for the perspective from inside the academy. However, one question I have is related to the letter of deferral that mentions:

" Approximately 50% of all appointments will be offered during Regular Selections. Please continue to update
your file to ensure that we know of any additional accomplishments, new grades, or improved standardized test
scores."

This seems to imply that the other 50% received appointments on Jan 15. So shouldn't half of your classmates be EA?

I do not have my nomination yet. I find out tomorrow from my representative. However, I believe I am 3Q and beat the averages for the SAT, CFA and GPA with great extracurriculars like football and a volunteer summer in Central America. My understanding was that a fairly high percentage of folks that are 3Q with a nomination (fingers crossed for the nom) are 75% likely to be appointed. This is based on 4000 folks being nominated, 2000 of those being 3Qed, 1500 getting appointed (of which 1200 accept).

But now that the athletes and high-end applicants are removed from the pool, I wonder what the chances are for a 3Q with nomination. Definitely lower but I wonder if anyone has a theory on our probability of admission after EA deferral (i.e. open spots remaining divided by how many truly qualified/nominated applicants remaining). My guess is that all qualified applicants minus EA offers is 2000 - 750 (50% of 1500) = 1250 = remaining qualified applicants. If 50% of the offers remain (50% of 1500=750) then 750/1250 = 60%. Reasonable?

60% is still pretty good odds.

Also, I heard that you get an automatic deferral if you haven't received your nomination yet. Is that possible? Or just conjecture?
 
Like many, I just joined... This forum has really helped answer a ton of questions as, yes, this process can be quite daunting.

Like coach always says - "You have to play till you hear the whistle" Even with a deferral - haven't heard the whistle. Going to keep working hard, hold my head up, have fun during the last months of my senior year, and stay excited about a great future ahead of me. If it's meant to be - it WILL happen. Nothing better about being in a cockpit of a plane and I know that's where I'm going to be in my career. Keep up the fight guys and gals and thanks to all those who went through this last year and have great stories to tell.
 
FYI:

1. Applications are open until 30 January. You can continue to add to your application any time for the next 2 weeks until the end of January.
2. The "Appointment Process" is actually a "ROLLING" process. That means that the academy can offer you an appointment, turn you down, defer, etc... any time during the cycle. While the March-April time frame is when the majority of appointments are given out, that doesn't mean everything will remain quiet for the next 2 months. You could receive notification tomorrow, next week, next month, etc.

Keep the faith and keep your chin up. It can be a very challenging time.
 
Do you think from this point on they will send out new appointments every Friday, or will it still be pretty sporadic (not sure if that is the right word, but oh well)?
 
I'm new to the forum as well, and I was also deferred this morning. I've been keeping up with this forum and it's definitely helped me prepare for it so I thank everyone for that.
 
Interesting how I haven't seen a single person who said they got accepted yet. I love USAFA, but this early action thing seems like a bad idea.
 
Remember, maybe 15% of all candidates are members here. Honestly, that might even be high. Usually the appointment list on this site is about 10% of the incoming class.

I honestly would not put too much into it.

Additionally, jmpo, but I think most candidates while in the process do not understand the finesse of the appointment process (charging).

You can have your paperwork in by Nov 1., but if just 1 candidate on yourMOC slate did not submit for the EA, than the MOC cannot be charged. The other issue is the fact that MOCs do not need to submit their slate until January 31st.

I am not a fan of this EA process, but that doesn't matter. Like Christcorp aka Mike stated, they never stopped the rolling process. Once every candidate on the MOC slate has a WCS they can charge the MOC, until that time, that charge is in play and every candidate has until end of Feb. to submit their final paperwork....IE a CFA can hold up the charging for the MOC. That in turn can hold up the EA, because they don't know which of the candidates that submitted for EA will go to the national pool.
~ They can get a clue from historical data if they without a doubt would be appointed off the national.

Before freaking, realize USAFA is the stingiestfor LOAs and I am willing to bet my beloved Myrtle after watching this process twice, that this impo is basically a different version of their LOA.
 
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Pima said:
Remember, maybe 15% of all candidates are members here. Honestly, that might even be high. Usually the appointment list on this site is about 10% of the incoming class.

I honestly would not put too much into it.

Additionally, jmpo, but I think most candidates while in the process do not understand the finesse of the appointment process (charging).

You can have your paperwork in by Nov 1., but if just 1 candidate on yourMOC slate did not submit for the EA, than the MOC cannot be charged. The other issue is the fact that MOCs do not need to submit their slate until January 31st.

I am not a fan of this EA process, but that doesn't matter. Like Christcorp aka Mike stated, they never stopped the rolling process. Once every candidate on the MOC slate has a WCS they can charge the MOC, until that time, that charge is in play and every candidate has until end of Feb. to submit their final paperwork....IE a CFA can hold up the charging for the MOC. That in turn can hold up the EA, because they don't know which of the candidates that submitted for EA will go to the national pool.
~ They can get a clue from historical data if they without a doubt would be appointed off the national.

Before freaking, realize USAFA is the stingiestfor LOAs and I am willing to bet my beloved Myrtle after watching this process twice, that this impo is basically a different version of their LOA.
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So...if one of the 10 candidates on the MOC's slate doesn't have everything in, the rest CAN'T hear until all 10 kids have their stuff in? Just trying to clarify.
Now I am beginning to understand why the process takes so long. It seems very complicated!
 
My son received that letter on January 6th. Not sure if the timing is a good sign, a bad sign, or no sign ; )
For some reason they called him on the first day of winter break wanting an updated transcript. He told them it would be after the first of the year and they said that was fine.
 
My DS has not heard anything today. He is 3Qd, 3 noms, above academy average in all academic categories, tons of extracurricular awards and experience. Our congressional rep did not appoint a principle and will allow the academies to decide based on merit. Did all of the deferrals for USAFA go out this morning or today? Also, is the USNA is on a different notification system? Seems to me USNA told us everything would be done via USPS (snail mail).
 
Did your DS complete his application in time to be eligible for EA? If not then I don't think they will get an answer today. If he did then you should hear something today. If I remember correctly from last year I think they were released throughout the day.
 
Did your son have everything completed by Nov 1? If not, he won't have heard anything today. My DD still hasn't taken her CFA due to sports injuries. She is taking it Saturday, so because her file is not complete, she didn't hear anything wrt early action.

Also, yes, USNA does appointment notification via snail mail.
 
I was also deferred this morning, and now have only to wait!

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