Justice at West Point

[MemberLG]

MemberLG,
So in your free time, you should avoid your sisters in arms, african americans, puerto ricans, jews, muslims... because they make you feel uncomfortable. Check roger. Got it.
And this has nothing to do with "girl friends." There's the problem right there. Why do you all always think of our sisters in arms as potential girlfriends or whatever? Treat them like soldiers and there are no problems. It's so simple. That point was completely irrelevent.

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Internet forums are not the best forum to discuss certain things. And if you made up your mind already, why bother engaging in a discussion.

Please point out to when I posted that male cadets should stay away from female cadets. Or where I stated this is about boy friend or girl friend. Don't make a scenario into an absolute example or if an example is given you should answer the example not twist the example into something else that is not.

Why do I post on this forum? Share my life experience so others might benefit from what I learned.

Either I am doing a real bad job explaining things or you are reading what is not there.

You think of it as avoiding certain folks during free time, but I see it as deciding who I want to spent my free time with.

 

[BigBear]

BigBear, your posts have been some of the worst offenses. You say some fairly absurd things about the academy dynamic, such as your lack of ever witnessing any sexual harrassment, ever (maybe because you "avoid female cadets"?). Try to think about what you are saying: A cadet got accused of raping another cadet. Who really knows the details, entirely, other than what was posted in this single article. Your automatic response? Avoid female cadets to avoid being accused of being raped. Maybe female cadets should avoid male cadets to avoid being sexually harrassed? No? Because that's what the big Army's like, men, women and a whole slew of different types of people. So why practice what you should never hope to practice when you graduate. Maybe instead, cadets should police each other up and there wouldn't be a problem. If you think avoiding a demographic to cover your own ass is a good solution to anything, I am disappointed that you are on this forum attempting to represent our academy.

I don't think you know how to read.
1. Like I said, I have never personally seen or heard someone cross the line like that (in reference to TheKnight's post). I have heard jokes, sure, but nothing that was intended to hurt anyone else.
2. No one is saying avoid female cadets. They are saying, and I agree, that it is safer to avoid going out and getting drunk with other cadets and then trying to have sex with them. Two very different situations.
3. I don't plan on going out and partying with my soldiers when I graduate, so yeah...
4. My roommate doesn't drink, so he doesn't come out with me when I go out to drink with friends. Is he any less of a person for avoiding a "demographic?"
You are basically saying that I am the bad guy for trying to avoid a situation that might get me in trouble- in what universe does that make sense?

 

[kinnem]

This is now a debate about who said what, and what was meant, and is no longer shedding any light on the real topic. I, for one, think its time to close it, at least for now.

 

[Xyz]

No, what happened is suddenly you realized how ridiculous the things you were saying sounded when repeated by someone else.

"That about sums it up. I think most guys are more afraid of being falsely accused and hung out to dry than girls are of being sexually assaulted"

"My son (Class of 2015) tells me that many of his classmates avoid any contact with women Cadets because its just too potentially dangerous."

"I advise my son to be very careful with female Cadets. He has "put some distance" between himself and his female Cadet friends. It is just too dangerous."

"If that has been your experience, I 100% agree with your post. However, in the two+ years I've been here, I have never seen or heard of someone crossing the line like that. "

"In almost three years here, I have literally never seen or heard anything that seriously crosses the SHARP line. While there are plenty of dirty jokes, that doesn't mean we are all sexual predators."

Just a few good quotes that shape the perpetuation of the type of culture that needs to go. It's not "boys will be boys,' because you're not a bunch of sheeple. You're an officer in training when at USMA.

 

[scoutpilot]

Well this has taken a turn for the stupid.

 

[buff81]

Lively debate is welcomed and encouraged until posters cross the 'personal insult' line.
Some folks on this thread are pretty close to crossing that line, so consider this thread - closed .