Knowingly made faulty welds on carriers and subs found at Newport News Shipbuilding

I read that. And was disturbed. Pretty scary stuff.
 
As soon as I got to the "...the defective welds were made on non-critical components of the subs and carriers..." I didn't get too excited about it.
I believe that people should be fired, but it's not the end of the World. :)
 
As soon as I got to the "...the defective welds were made on non-critical components of the subs and carriers..." I didn't get too excited about it.
I believe that people should be fired, but it's not the end of the World. :)
lol I read ‘my kid is going to be in one of those tubes hundreds of feet underwater’ 🤔

I guess it’s all in perspective 😂 DH says I think too much. Probably do.
 
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lol I read ‘my kid is going to be in one of those tubes hundreds of feet underwater’ 🤔

I guess it’s all in perspective 😂 DH says I think too much. Probably do.
I got one likely going to subs in a few years too. The number of "non-critical welds" on a sub might be much less to me then to what NNS has. Just about every weld on a sub could be critical in some situation.

Now I do understand that the sky is not falling and we don't need to march in the streets every night about this story.

I am just wondering what they AREN'T saying at this time about this situation. There is more to this story that might come out. Hopefully not.
 
Being from a shipyard family I can tell you this is not an isolated incident. One issue today is on multiple fronts.

1. See it with my own eyes 32 years ago (JC I just said that). Laziness and how can I get away with. NNS has whole crews that just sleep.
2. Not everything was inspected not sure about now. How much can I slip through.
3. Keeping good talent around is hard.
4. A shipyard job might sound nice to some but it's HOT af in the summer. Cold af in the winters. One summer I worked inside these Naval LCACs with no AC. It was 100 plus that summer. We came outside to cool off. ;-)

One issue is NNS has an monopoly on Aircraft building and subs.

If we had other places to do the work. We could drive down cost and the war fighter is getting the best prodcut.
 
I recall 707s (E-6 Navy) that had vertical stabilizers snapping off in flight. It happened twice. Neither aircraft crashed, in fact one test crew had to be advised by their chase plane that “1/2 of your tail just broke off” because they didn’t feel it in the controls.

Anyway, looking for the problem we got down on the manufacturing floor and found that in the tail cone of the airframe where things got narrow, every other internal rivet was missing 😬. When asked why machinists hadn’t installed the required fasteners we were told (anonymously) that

“nobody could see they were/weren't installed unless you crawled back into the tail cone; and putting them (fasteners) in was uncomfortable in the cramped cone section”.………ahhh Union Labor.

Good news is that A.I. is gonna be a huge benefit to all manufacturing particularly QC. If a guy consistently finishes a piece of work 3 seconds faster than average. That person is gonna be automatically evaluated to determine if he/she is working really smart……or is doing something really stupid/lazy/evil.
 
I recall 707s (E-6 Navy) that had vertical stabilizers snapping off in flight. It happened twice. Neither aircraft crashed, in fact one test crew had to be advised by their chase plane that “1/2 of your tail just broke off” because they didn’t feel it in the controls.

Anyway, looking for the problem we got down on the manufacturing floor and found that in the tail cone of the airframe where things got narrow, every other internal rivet was missing 😬. When asked why machinists hadn’t installed the required fasteners we were told (anonymously) that

“nobody could see they were/weren't installed unless you crawled back into the tail cone; and putting them (fasteners) in was uncomfortable in the cramped cone section”.………ahhh Union Labor.

Good news is that A.I. is gonna be a huge benefit to all manufacturing particularly QC. If a guy consistently finishes a piece of work 3 seconds faster than average. That person is gonna be automatically evaluated to determine if he/she is working really smart……or is doing something really stupid/lazy/evil.
Did you see where the machinist's union rejected Boeing's offer of a 35% pay raise? I know the problem is with a pension issue, but wow, 35%?

That a lot of dough.
 
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