Meanwhile back in Ukraine

Same politics-baiters ****ting up the forum, a forum which exists merely to help young people navigate the Service Academies. Take it somewhere else.
 
Same politics-baiters ****ting up the forum, a forum which exists merely to help young people navigate the Service Academies. Take it somewhere else.
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There were 44 constructive postings in this Thread before you punched your way in …. All of the postings, except your posting, are related to the Topic.

The SAs aren’t educating a bunch of wild animals …. I think they are all quite capable of well educated critical thought and input.
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I heard a reporter ask former President Trump who he wants to win this war. She asked him "do you want Russia or Ukraine to win?"
I forgot what he said in response, but had I been advising him I would have suggested that he just say;

Nobody wins a war.

Because that's the truth. We occupied Japan from 1945 to 1952 and spent a ton of time and money rebuilding what we destroyed. Sure, we got some air bases on Okinawa for it, but we had to build those, you know. ;)
 
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No winners in war … that’s for sure

No winners if tyrants have untethered reign and destruction … that’s for sure

I’m in the camp that says chaos cannot be allowed to exist …. Putin is chaos … he’s got his Cooks causing chaos everywhere …. His Regime is a mob state. It has to go …
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No winners in war … that’s for sure

No winners if tyrants have untethered reign and destruction … that’s for sure

I’m in the camp that says chaos cannot be allowed to exist …. Putin is chaos … he’s got his Cooks causing chaos everywhere …. His Regime is a mob state. It has to go …
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I don't know about "chaos." "Mob boss with the world's largest nuclear arsenal" seems more apt.
 
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Putin’s Ukraine script is unfolding really nicely … it’s getting a bit heavy … do we need a spinoff?

I just read that trenches are being formed to protect Moscow? Flights from Moscow have reportedly sold out as the Wagner mercenary group approaches. There have been numerous reports that Putin’s presidential plane took off from Moscow Vnukovo Airport at 2:16PM Moscow time

Minsk & Tehran … are they next inline to fall?

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Sadly... We have commanders like that but not as insane.
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Prigozhin is much more than a commander … he is a “Business Man” … Putin’s “Company Man” … he is Putin’s Oil & Mineral riches “World Warlord” … the biggest Mafia ever to exist …

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The Putin supporters in the US should not give up hope.

Sure a civil war has a bad look when you are getting your butt kicked by a different country that you had invaded .

But the South Vietnamese Govt went thru something similar in the spring of 1965. A large number of SVN troops doing battle with a large number of SVN troops.

My unit was on stand by because we were expected to go onto danang and fight SV troops that a few days before were our friends.

The SVN troops did fight each other, one group tried to kill the senior Marine in VN Gen Walt but we stayed on the sidelines.

but all in all the SV govt survived that internal fighting and crisis. And Putin may well survive this civil war civil unrest that we are seeing on TV today.
 
The Putin supporters in the US should not give up hope.
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The survival instinct is getting real now… Animal vs. Animal … I don’t believe Putin will survive this one

Where does his U.S fan club go from here? How does their narrative change?
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Prigozhin is much more than a commander … he is a “Business Man” … Putin’s “Company Man” … he is Putin’s Oil & Mineral riches “World Warlord” … the biggest Mafia ever to exist …

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I non concur. I was referring to General Valery Gerasimov and Defense Minister Shoigu.
 
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The survival instinct is getting real now… Animal vs. Animal … I don’t believe Putin will survive this one

Where does his U.S fan club go from here? How does their narrative change?
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I’d not bet a dime with any real confidence as to how this turns out for him in the near run. Let’s hope not a full on civil war.

But what amazing history to watch unfold today.

25,000 Russians marching on Moscow and so far seemingly unopposed .

And lots of reporting, true or not, that Putin and others have fled the city for St Petersburg
 
I find it hard to believe that Prigozhin can "take" Moscow and I'd bet my life on St. Petersburg. I think there is a good chance the war in Ukraine comes to an end soon.
 
I find it hard to believe that Prigozhin can "take" Moscow and I'd bet my life on St. Petersburg. I think there is a good chance the war in Ukraine comes to an end soon.
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This could be Putin’s & Prigozhin’s next playbook maneuver … make Shoigu & Gerasimov be the scapegoats for their failed Ukrainian war … and then control Russia from within to become more “Isolationist” and avoid any war crime tribunals …

Why the U.S has allowed Prigozhin to operate his Oil & Mineral exploitation business for so long just doesn’t make sense? …. Prigozhin and his thug operation should have been crippled a long time ago. Clearly Prigozhin has been the only reason Putin has maintained his rein of terror for so long
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This could be Putin’s & Prigozhin’s next playbook maneuver … make Shoigu & Gerasimov be the scapegoats for their failed Ukrainian war … and then control Russia from within to become more “Isolationist” and avoid any war crime tribunals …

That would be some serious 3-D chess going on here if that's the case. Prigozhin said--did not imply--that the 100k+ casualties, destroyed families, wasted treasure and resulting miserable future were unnecessary. Robert McNamara waited 10 years offer a similar reflection on the Vietnam War. Prigozhin is doing it in real time.


From the Article:

But on Friday, for the first time he (Prigozhin) dismissed Russia’s core justifications for invading Ukraine in February of last year in what the Kremlin calls a “special military operation.”

“The war was needed ... so that [Defense Minister Sergei] Shoigu could become a marshal ... so that he could get a second ‘Hero’ [of Russia] medal,” Prigozhin said in another audio message. “The war wasn’t needed to demilitarize or denazify Ukraine.”

I don't think the team of Oprah, Dr. Phil and Marianne Williamson could help mend this relationship.
 
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