Medical Insurance Information for the SLE

AcademyAspirant

AcademyAspirant

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Is the medical insurance info really required to apply for the SLE? There is a worry for medical fraud when (yes, not if) USMA is hacked.
 
They (USMA) definitely need to know, and I assume your student will not be invited to SLE without insurance. Hopefully, the information is only noted as yes/no, and the details are saved later only when a student is invited and attends. None of my students over seven years have had issues with SLE and insurance information loss.
 
Academician said:
They (USMA) definitely need to know, and I assume your student will not be invited to SLE without insurance. Hopefully, the information is only noted as yes/no, and the details are saved later only when a student is invited and attends. None of my students over seven years have had issues with SLE and insurance information loss.
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So, hypothetically, if someone had no medical insurance, they wouldn't be allowed to attend? Also, the information required is rather specific and USMA's database won't be scrubbed if I don't get in, because that would be an enormous use of time.
 
Yes, I believe both are likely. Admissions 'knows' the answers so I recommend that you reach out to them directly to address your questions and concerns. Let us know what you find out.
 
If you end up applying to USMA (and the other ones), you're about to disclose LOTS more information about yourself and your health than your insurance details. All without knowing if you'll get in.
 
Beyond USMA, if you going through the security clearance process is quite invasive too. Not to mention the random drug testing where you have to urinate in front of an examiner. Overall free guidance if you or your family member are going to enter the military, be aware that pushing back against at-present regulations/ needs is often as effective as pushing a rope (not a lot of progress despite effort). The military requirements are invasive, the opportunities to contribute and serve - it's fabulous, but you may just need to expose your medical insurance and medical history details. If you don't have insurance and that is the issue, explore bridge plan/ social assistance and university coverage for when you go to school - which is out there. good luck.
 
Yes. I myself am fine with all information requirements (so far), except my parents see that my providing our medical insurance information is a risk for me as well as them, which is why they are being stingy.
 
Academician said:
Yes, I believe both are likely. Admissions 'knows' the answers so I recommend that you reach out to them directly to address your questions and concerns. Let us know what you find out.
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Been 6 days since I reached out with no response yet. How long do you think it would reasonably take her to respond?
 
You may try calling too. Admissions is quite busy so hard to say when and if they will respond. Good luck!
 
No offense, but if you're hung up on providing insurance info for SLE, academy application could be a slog
 
Beyond the security risk, there are genuine activities and instances where students have gotten hurt during SLE and other Academy summer camps. It would be good precaution to provide that information.
 
DrMom said:
If you are hoping for an exception, the military may not be right for you. It is about the herd and the needs of the Service versus the interests of the individual.
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TBH (and I could be misreading), but based upon the comment "except my parents see that my providing our medical insurance information is a risk for me as well as them, which is why they are being stingy."; it sounds like it is more of an issue with the parents.

I'd suggest having a conversation with parents about relative risk. They provide insurance cards to local doctor's offices, pharmacies, etc. I would hardly consider the USMA to be a more significant risk than either of these locations.
 
DrMom said:
If you are hoping for an exception, the military may not be right for you. It is about the herd and the needs of the Service versus the interests of the individual.
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Personally, I have no problem with it. However, my parents share none of those aspirations and releasing medical information online is as much their decision as mine, if not more. A good middle ground is, from my biased perspective, getting an exception/waiver of that, to the extent of just saying "will provide if needed." I do not have anywhere near the level of experience as the other members, which is why I'm asking if that would be acceptable.
 
AcademyAspirant said:
Personally, I have no problem with it. However, my parents share none of those aspirations and releasing medical information online is as much their decision as mine, if not more. A good middle ground is, from my biased perspective, getting an exception/waiver of that, to the extent of just saying "will provide if needed." I do not have anywhere near the level of experience as the other members, which is why I'm asking if that would be acceptable.
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Sure, it’s ok to ask. One can always ask. But be prepared for the answer to be ‘no’. Or not selected. There are plenty of applicants to select from. And SLE is a recruiting tool more than an opinion on you as a competitive candidate.

Fortunately you don’t have to attend in order to apply for an appointment. At which time you (your parents) will be providing personal information to the same organization as SLE.

Posters above are correct in that you (your parents) have to decide if you (your parents) are ok with disclosing private information. Without expecting exemptions.
 
In a lot of states (NOT CA and a few others) if you don't have insurance you can apply for short term insurance ( anywhere from 1-12mos) for a relatively low price to cover your time at your summer program. I don't remember (it's been awhile) but a link was provided to one of my kids when accepted to SLE or NASS. You might think it is unnecessary but you just never know. While my DD was at NASS several ended up visiting the urgent care over the course of the week. Don't let not having insurance stop you from applying.
 
AcademyAspirant said:
Personally, I have no problem with it. However, my parents share none of those aspirations and releasing medical information online is as much their decision as mine, if not more. A good middle ground is, from my biased perspective, getting an exception/waiver of that, to the extent of just saying "will provide if needed." I do not have anywhere near the level of experience as the other members, which is why I'm asking if that would be acceptable.
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I think it's important to not conflate medical insurance information with medical information. The academy isn't asking for your EHR. The intent is to confirm that each participant has medical insurance coverage. As for security concerns, the portal is meant to be very secure. Also, if I'm not mistaken, applicants have to provide their SSN (please correct me if I'm wrong), which is much more sensitive than information re: insurance coverage. As stated by other posters, it's a personal decision and one can ask for an exception. If you are indeed, interested in SLE, it would be a shame for this to be the reason you aren't able to participate. My DS did SLE1 last summer and loved it. He had no real interest in the academy prior to SLE and now we're getting him ready for R-Day (exactly 38 years to the day after my own R-Day).

Good luck to you
 
d90 said:
I think it's important to not conflate medical insurance information with medical information. The academy isn't asking for your EHR. The intent is to confirm that each participant has medical insurance coverage. As for security concerns, the portal is meant to be very secure. Also, if I'm not mistaken, applicants have to provide their SSN (please correct me if I'm wrong), which is much more sensitive than information re: insurance coverage. As stated by other posters, it's a personal decision and one can ask for an exception. If you are indeed, interested in SLE, it would be a shame for this to be the reason you aren't able to participate. My DS did SLE1 last summer and loved it. He had no real interest in the academy prior to SLE and now we're getting him ready for R-Day (exactly 38 years to the day after my own R-Day).

Good luck to you
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Congratulations, and thank you
 
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