medical turnback

thanks for the posts and support.

They are giving her a couple more days of the immunoglobbin. She is upset because she knows she won't be marching to jacks this year.

She is struggling to move from the right knee down but the left side doing better. Physical therapy tomorrow which hurts alot. Doctor told her she needed to be tough to get through this. They gave her a muscle relaxer via a shot in the stomach - Was not a pleasant event by any means. Lots of headaches from the meds and the pain. I'm guessing what she is going through makes BCT seem like a walk in the park - no disrespect to those going through BCT.
 
Praying your DD has a speedy and complete recovery.

As a fifteen year sufferer of MS, I am familiar with the attacks on myelin that cause numbness and weakness. Thankfully, the body has a wonderful capacity to recover. It sounds like she is in good hands there at the academy. I wish you both the best.

My DS is reapplying for next year. Hopefully he and your DD will be classmates.
 
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Texasrocks said:
thanks for the posts and support.

They are giving her a couple more days of the immunoglobbin. She is upset because she knows she won't be marching to jacks this year.

She is struggling to move from the right knee down but the left side doing better. Physical therapy tomorrow which hurts alot. Doctor told her she needed to be tough to get through this. They gave her a muscle relaxer via a shot in the stomach - Was not a pleasant event by any means. Lots of headaches from the meds and the pain. I'm guessing what she is going through makes BCT seem like a walk in the park - no disrespect to those going through BCT.
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Prayers for your daughter. Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery.
 
We will pray for her quick and full recovery! I hope your DD is patient with herself and her recovery process. I want to include your whole family in our prayers, stay strong!

I'm so happy to know that your DD's swim coach and Major did a top-notch job of responding to her and the Medical team in diagnosing/responding to her properly during BCT! I feel all the more reassured that our DSs and DDs for Class of 2016 are in excellent hands at BCT with the Cadre, staff, instructors, and Medical teams available to the Basics.

I wish your DD all the best for reapplying for Class of 2017, she's got what it takes, she just had a setback.
 
Texasrocks, I am so sorry to hear about your DD. I will keep her and your family in my prayers for a full speedy recovery!! Good luck to her on reapplying next year!!
 
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Texasrocks, I am so sorry to hear about your DD. I will keep her and your family in my prayers for a full speedy recovery!! Good luck to her on reapplying next year!!
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we are hoping for a medical turnback so we do not need to reapply. She is up and using her walker trying to fight the pain to see if she can still make it by friday. gotta give her credit for grit.
 
Texasrocks said:
we are hoping for a medical turnback so we do not need to reapply. She is up and using her walker trying to fight the pain to see if she can still make it by friday. gotta give her credit for grit.
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Your DS's determination and resolve is admirable. There have been appointees who have been hurt and it is very unfortunate. It is much more disturbing that there are a few who out-processed or just didn't get out of the bus because they changed their mind or for whatever reason decided that the academy wasn't for them after going through all the process leading into BCT.
May the medically turned back appointees recuperate. We pray for complete healing and Godspeed!
 
Texasrocks,

Your story about your daughter, and her determination has been amazing. As I posted before, I had no idea what GBS even was or is.

In the link below there is an interesting story about an enlisted kid who got GBS as well. This is my sons base, and I just happened to see this today. I thought of you and your daughter right away.

Sounds like with her determination, like his, they can over come this thing.

Good luck and prayers!

http://www.lackland.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-120703-060.pdf It's about the 9th page down.
 
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My aunt contracted GBS yrs ago, and I too give kudos that they were able to diagnose this so quickly. For her she lost feeling within an hour, called my uncle at work, by the time he got to her at home she was completely paralyzed, arms, and legs. It was a long recovery for her, obviously since she was older, but the upshot is she was back to normal within 6 months, she was in her 60's when it occurred, so that should tell you how fast an 18 yr old can rebound.

As much as she wants to push herself, she needs to follow the MD/ PT/OT's in this matter, especially since she still has numbness and now is also on muscle relaxers. If she can't feel the pain, once off the meds it can be painful.

I don't know about BCT, but I would assume, and we know what that means, her condition even if she pushes herself will not get her back in the amount of time needed. Typically in the AD world, the higher the pain meds, the longer you are not medically qualified, mainly due to the fact that it has to clear through the system.

This is not like her dislocating her knee or injured her back and needed surgery, medically she will clear next yr. Yes, it stinks to wait one more yr to start her life, but it is only a yr. and not a lifetime, like it could be if she injured her knee or her back.

Did she place a deposit on the back up college? Did she hold onto her AFROTC scholarship, if she got one? I know about 2-3 yrs ago, there a medical turnback on this site, and they paid the college deposit and held onto the scholarship, contacted both AFROTC HQ and the school, he went to the back up school for a yr. and did ROTC.
 
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Texasrocks said:
DD contracted guillian barre syndrome
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either from flu vaccine on iday or from upper respiratory infection. She is in hospital now and fighting hard to regain feeling in legs. I have to say kudos to coach and agressors officers for getting to hospital quickly probably saved her life.

prognoses is good for recovery but probably not in 6 more days. Major thinks most likely she will have spot in next years class but any suggestions on what she should do over the next year. She will continue to swim and probably work some but how about taking classes at local college will the credits transfer? DS (c2c) suggested taking Chem and/or Physics
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Received a letter from my DD just now and your DD was in her element. What is interesting is that my DD has no idea what happened to her. She describes her leg numbness and its spread to her spinal cord and that she is in the hospital but after that the cadets didn't know anything else about her. My DD also said that she really liked her and that she was cool, a recruited swimmer and she asked me to pray for her....so we are and have already been! Hopefully by now it is arrested and she is on her way back to health!

The spiritual tone in the letters is pretty surprising. My DD always went to church but I didn't think it was that big a deal to her. Guess it works after all.."Start children off on the way they should go, and even when they are old they will not turn from it"...Proverbs22:6
 
she is supposed to leave hospital tomorrow and go speak with the USAFA medical staff and assess if they think you will be able to go to jacks and complete the assault course by the end of jacks. personally I think that would be hard for her to do given her condition.

Otherwise she will assessed for a medical turnback.

Questions I have that we are still trying to get answered is
1) if she tries Jacks and cannot complete it will she still be eligible for the turnback

2) they said you have to reapply with a turnback but does that mean you have to resubmit your application and take the physical or do you have to redo the application and get renominated?
 
The medical turnback is done there. If it is decided that she'll get a medical turnback, then she basically is good to go for next year. She'll simply need to get a medical release showing that whatever was medically wrong is now corrected.

Basically, the medical turnback is a formality. If you are leaving the academy during BCT for a medical reason, than almost always they'll receive a medical turnback. If "Other" issues are involved like incompatibility or other issues where the academy just doesn't feel that the trainee is cut out for the academy, that's a different issue. But generally speaking, the only time you have to start the application over again; get a nomination again; etc... is if you didn't make it as far as taking the oath. (Which your daughter did do). So all is cool. If she has to leave for medical reasons, she is good to go next year assuming she is cleared medically. But no, she won't need to go through the application process again. Best of luck.

Personally, I'm use to "FIGHTERS". If they are giving her the ability to be assessed for possibly staying there and going to JACKS; then more power to her. I hope she kicks their assessment with everything she has; and is able to prove her self and make it through jacks. This is where Airmen are made. Good for her. I know you are worried about her, but the medical staff won't allow her to even attempt JACKS if they don't think she can do it or if it will harm her. But if she has the spirit and the physical ability to do it.... YOU GO GIRL!!! KICK BUTT!!!!.
 
thanks Mike - sent the post to her as inspiration. She has the spirit, the physical coordination is the question.
 
she is walking without the walker - still at the campus awaiting outprocessing. DS took her out for breakfast before BCT 2 and she got to go out with the girls swim team to the coaches house. Hopefully she will fly home friday or tomorrow.
 
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she is walking without the walker - still at the campus awaiting outprocessing. DS took her out for breakfast before BCT 2 and she got to go out with the girls swim team to the coaches house. Hopefully she will fly home friday or tomorrow.
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Thank God she is recovering...you must be relieved. Now she will have time to recuperate, get healthy and get ready to join the class 2017! Again, my DD had nothing but great things to say about her. She really likes her and told me on Sunday that she misses her in her element. I will write her and tell her about her progress. Their element lost another girl, they are down to 4, that was supposed to be out processed but I saw her in a picture still on crutches as she has been for the last two weeks. I guess they decided to let her stay on but it makes me wonder if she is going to be able to miss almost the entire basic and still be allowed to stay on...doesn't seem fair. I wonder if the rest of the squadron is not too happy about someone nice and clean watching them crawl through the mud and then just being able to join back in after a couple of weeks have passed...what is the typical procedure on how long you can be excused physically?
 
Good to hear she is recovering.

Some basics are able to get "self-paced" form 18s (medical forms). If they can meet certain requirements while on a "self-paced" form 18, those days count for BCT. So, it depends on exactly what people can do. For example, I strained my knee, but was able to do the Obstacle Course on a self-pace. I could do the obstacles, but not quite keep up with the PT in between them ("high knees" became "high knee" for me).
 
Am I missing something here why people are assuming it has been decided she is not a turnback?

Texasrocks said:
still at the campus awaiting outprocessing. Hopefully she will fly home friday or tomorrow.
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BobBigBoy said:
I guess they decided to let her stay on but it makes me wonder if she is going to be able to miss almost the entire basic and still be allowed to stay on...doesn't seem fair. I wonder if the rest of the squadron is not too happy about someone nice and clean watching them crawl through the mud and then just being able to join back in after a couple of weeks have passed...what is the typical procedure on how long you can be excused physically?
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Bob,

It sounds to me she is a turnback and it is officially over for her this yr. since they are flying home this week. If they were to keep her, I don't think they would send her home. If I recall correctly the standard is 8 days of missing BCT before they call the ball. The only reason that number sticks in my mind was due to the fact a few yrs ago when the H1N1 became a problem at the AFA, due to the amount of cadets that were sick there was talk they would extend that number out, instead of turning back lots of kids due to the reg.
 
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