Millennials

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  1. Jcleppe

    Jcleppe 5-Year Member

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    After reading Bruno's post I would like to add that I have had the same experience, I've had good and bad employees from every working generation, never enough one way or the other to be able to pigeon hole any generation.

    The younger employees have a handle on the new tech and how to use it in business, without that input we'd be left in the dust. Us older employers can either take advantage and adjust or....be sent to live on a farm upstate.

    Side note: For myself, I still draw the line at sending anything called a Tweet!!, gotta take a stand somewhere.
     
  2. Lawman32RPD

    Lawman32RPD 5-Year Member

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  3. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Moderator 5-Year Member

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    +1, Jcleppe.....
    I'm 57 and I do tweet occasionally....but I will NOT "snapchat." :biggrin:
     
  4. kinnem

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    :redface: I'm ashamed to have tweeted a few times. My apologies to my generation. :frown:
     
  5. cga82

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    I agree with most of the views everyone has had. What the hell is a TWEET?
    Never mind I don't wanna know-I rather stay an old grumpy dude!

    I also agree with Darcie Cunninghams experience for I have in my extensive time with the CG seen what she describes.

    I also will take a little different angle in that this generational thing has been going on forever. The sad part is that it seems to be heading south fast. I see the disrespect given to teachers at all grade levels and the teachers have very few tools to combat this insolence nowadays. I see the break up of families and required need for 2 people to work. Most kids are raised by their mothers and many are relying on a Govt check. It has become a cultural thing.

    The society has completely changed from the leave it to beaver days to kids being on the gameboy, people don't know their neighbors and you can't let your kid out of your sight for the fear of something bad happening.

    A large portion of our society is on Entitlements and it doesn't look like it will reverse itself. In fact, there is no stopping with a $17.5 trillion debt increasing.

    I even see the CG retirees looking at disability checks as an Entitlement. I never heard of such things back in my day but now it's just common acknowledgement and talk among those getting near retirement.
     
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  6. goaliedad

    goaliedad Parent 5-Year Member

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    Love your post as well...

    As to the communications thing, I've come to discover over the years that a small effort to work with them at their level of engagement goes a long way to break down the walls that are mostly about not sharing a common communications development.

    I think about when I was a child and you had a pen pal. You wrote letters and mailed them off. If you were lucky in a week or two, you got a reply. Dialogue was slow and imprecision on your first attempt wasn't quickly corrected. Talk wasn't cheap or easy.

    With the advent of cheap long distance (a concept now forgotten) phone calls, that ability to get your thought right the first time came less and less important as you could quickly correct yourself when the conversation turned in a direction that you didn't intend.

    Ten cents a minute did require you to put some thought into what you were going to talk about.

    Today, after your unlimited communications plan is paid for the month, tweets, Facebook posts, video messaging, and even posting on SAF is easy and free. And judging by what I am told about much of the communications out there (I don't have a Facebook, Linkedin, Twitter, or other "social media" account) I don't miss it. I do find quite a bit of thoughtful content here and on a couple other forums I frequent, so I am quite happy to stick around.

    Lots of stuff put out there on social media that people will live to regret. I don't remember ever writing such stuff in letters to pen pals.

    I don't take a pen and paper very often these days - email really is more my speed for communicating - I can give it the same review that a hand written letter gets and if I am on my game, I can get the desired conversation with those I communicate to without the punishing waiting (yeah I can be impatient) that I grew up with.

    I text and Skype with my daughter though... And I don't enjoy it as much though... However, she does send me email from time to time. I think she understands my value of the written word in more than 160 characters. And she actually has developed quite a level of skill in written language that I was wondering about a few short years ago, although she did complain about writing 24 page OP orders at BOLC last night.
     
  7. BR2011

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    http://opensource.com/health/11/6/socrates-social-media-and-new-dialectic

    People have been against new mediums of communication for all of humanity.

     
  8. Jcleppe

    Jcleppe 5-Year Member

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    usna1985 10-Year Member

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    Haven't been in the military since the millennials started joining so can only talk about the corporate world.

    I tend to agree that millennials initially don't appear to have the same work ethic, etc. as the baby boomers. However, IMO, the issue is more subtle.

    It seems to me they have somewhat different goals/objectives both for work and life. Initially -- probably b/c of their parents -- they jump into the corporate world hoping to strike it rich. Then they find out that the traditional path is working really, really hard (IOW, long hours) and putting in your time (IOW, waiting to be promoted). They quickly find out that, in most jobs, you can't work 9-5, make 6+ figure salaries, and be CEO in 5 years.:smile:

    Based on my experience (which, I'll admit is limited to my little corner of the world), they don't see the point of slaving away the "best" years of their life for a "reward" of money and power. Rather, they are willing to work fewer hours and maybe not have as much power in order to have a better "quality of life" (free time, time with family, etc.). They also seem much more willing to change jobs or even careers to make this happen. I've seen lots of folks in my line of work who, on their own initiative, leave a high paying, stressful, long-hours job (with promise of more of all of the above if successful) for a less stressful, fewer hours, and MUCH lower paying job -- and don't look back.

    Of course, as noted above, there are exceptions to every "rule" and just as every member of the "Greatest Generation" wasn't great, so too every member of the millennials doesn't fit the "stereotype" of that generation -- or at least where that generation is today. It still has a long way to go!
     
  10. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006 10-Year Member

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    First, the "Greatest Generation" doesn't exist. It's a line to sell a book. They found themselves in a broken world, with the U.S. still standing, and they made gains while Europe and Asia rebuilt.

    The Baby Boomers inherited this new, post broken, world. And then.... they burned their bras, took LSD, danced to Pete Seeger and stopped caring about personal hygiene.

    Second point, people seem to be lumping "Millenials" and "Generation X" into the same group. They aren't. The individualized "gimmie gimmie gimmie" because you owe me generation was Generation X. This was the target of the "Army of One" commercials.

    Millenials generally started entering the workforce in 2000ish.
     
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    I loved "Willie and Joe" in Pacific Stars and Stripes:thumb:
     
  13. Boozebin

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    This is what I found and doing a few searches on the the ever great Google. I guess it'll help us frame certain time frames in the discussion.

    Mature/Silents: Born 1927- 1945

    Baby Boomers: Born between 1946 and 1964. Two sub-sets: 1. the save-the-world revolutionaries of the ’60s and ’70s; and 2. the party-hardy career climbers (Yuppies) of the ’70s/’80s.

    Generation X: Born between 1965 and 1980*

    Generation Y/Millennium: Born between 1981* and 2000*.

    Generation Z/Boomlets: Born after 2001*

    Also the * means that the dates for the end of Gen X, Gen Y and Gen Z fluctuate depending on what source you are using.
     
  14. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006 10-Year Member

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    The time frames are vague in the U.S. I think the Wikipedia page I looked at said Australia actually has a cut-off.

    What we need is an international system to categorize people by their birth years and then hate them for it! :biggrin:
     
  15. Boozebin

    Boozebin 5-Year Member

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    I find my method the easiest; hate everyone including your own generation and the only perfect person is me. Just keeping it simple:shake:

    What I don't get is who names these groups? What in the world are boomlets? I just picture tiny pains in the rear running around saying they're great.
     
  16. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006 10-Year Member

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    Easy. Boomlets are long pieces of absorbant material made from baby pigs, and used to clean up oil spills at sea.
     
  17. cga82

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    Call them what you want but they are the me, myself and I ENTITLEMENT generation!:eek: