Ok, I'm hard to stress out but I got there. Son is at NAPS right now GOING GREAT 2 out of 10 months left. Holding a 2.5 and will probably go up a little the last semester, He's in top 25% for his PRT absolutely no dings for behavior or honor. Was one of only 2 kids, out of 20 who asked that were allowed to walk on to the Wrestling team this year and was asked by Kolat to walk on next year. On his way to an easy appointment to USNA, then a parent posted a REQUIREMENT I hadn't seen as posed that way before. APPLIED TO ALL APPLICABLE NOMINATIONS. He applied to NONE this year. We were under the impression if he didn't, he'd get the Sec. Nav. out of NAPS. Excuses are worthless but he dropped the ball on this one had them ready but Ohio' s deadlines were the week after INDOC and he just wasn't able to get it done. They wouldn't make him go through a whole year, succeed at everything and then deny him WOULD THEY.
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IronmanDaremo
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I never applied for any noms (in my initial application or during my NAPS year). I wasn't clear on the process.
They never asked me to do it at NAPS, got my 3.3 GPA and got my appointment. Never knew what nom I was charged against. Probably SecNAV (although as a kid of a career military officer, I was eligible to Presidential as well).
Don't worry, he'll be fine and will get an appointment.
They never asked me to do it at NAPS, got my 3.3 GPA and got my appointment. Never knew what nom I was charged against. Probably SecNAV (although as a kid of a career military officer, I was eligible to Presidential as well).
Don't worry, he'll be fine and will get an appointment.
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Oh dear.
I hope he has informed his chain of command and thrown himself on their mercy. There are not unlimited numbers of the SECNAV noms which are reserved for enlisted personnel, which he qualifies for with the enlisted status he has at NAPS. Those noms are used for those who are unsuccessful in gaining a nom from other sources. NAPSters are expected to start the next cycle’s nom applications to all eligible nom sources before they report to NAPS.
I hope they have a stern one-way communication with him about paying attention to detail, understanding his responsibilities, etc., and then working the magic with Admissions to make it happen.
Keep us posted. This is his to navigate.
As a learning point for upcoming NAPSters, be sure you read and heed all guidance provided in your class booklet, especially with regard to noms. This is the current one, which will be updated soon for the next class. See page 8. The requirement to apply for noms is underscored.
Applicable military saying: “The devil is in the details.”
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Are you SURE?? I feel like that would be hard to overlook. The entire CLASS would (should) be applying. I feel like there would be an email reminder, or something?
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I'm surprised there was not some sort of "direction from above" to apply for noms. I know that students in the Foundation program are told point blank to apply to all noms for which they are eligible. In the CAPT Wallace days (and I assume still true today), he followed up with every candidate to ensure it was done.
Second, don't believe everything parents post.
Third, 2022 NAPS INDOC ended (classes began) Aug. 17. At least one Ohio Senator didn't require nom packages to be submitted until Sep. 15. That's an entire month.
Third, it's a little late now to worry about this as there's nothing anyone could do.
Fourth, he will PROBABLY be ok but CAPT MJ is absolutely correct. DS needs to take ownership of his own life and career. As an officer, he will be expected to keep track of important dates for him and inform his enlisted about important dates for them. No one is going to be informing him. Just saying . . .
Second, don't believe everything parents post.
Third, 2022 NAPS INDOC ended (classes began) Aug. 17. At least one Ohio Senator didn't require nom packages to be submitted until Sep. 15. That's an entire month.
Third, it's a little late now to worry about this as there's nothing anyone could do.
Fourth, he will PROBABLY be ok but CAPT MJ is absolutely correct. DS needs to take ownership of his own life and career. As an officer, he will be expected to keep track of important dates for him and inform his enlisted about important dates for them. No one is going to be informing him. Just saying . . .
OK, he didn't do nothing. He did apply for the VP nom. He also did what he was told to do by the head of the selection board of our congressmen, which was for him to send her an email stating he was accepted to NAPS and to please carry over his nomination request to 2023. We have the email where she told us to do that, and he sent her 3 emails stating that, but got no reply. I told him to speak to his chain of command and ask is he ok and if not what should he do. A Master Chief is his first contact. He said he would do it. We'll see. He has nothing but good reviews from teachers and coach so hopefully.......
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Maybe I am not understanding the OP
Noms for someone at NAPS based on two napsters in the family and lots of their classmates was just not a big deal.
As I remember while at naps the entire class applied pretty much at the same time. It was pretty much a stress free event.
I would bet that no Napster has ever graduated naps in good standing and been denied the USNA based on a lack of a nom.
Noms for someone at NAPS based on two napsters in the family and lots of their classmates was just not a big deal.
As I remember while at naps the entire class applied pretty much at the same time. It was pretty much a stress free event.
I would bet that no Napster has ever graduated naps in good standing and been denied the USNA based on a lack of a nom.
That’s fascinating
Does he have her nomination reflected in his portal?
God I hope you are right.
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Just curious - How are Napsters and Prepsters received and viewed at the Academy? Do they arrive at the same time on I-Day? Earlier? Are they better prepared for PS and Plebe year? Do they have a higher graduation rate? Are they more likely to be in leadership positions thru their Academy careers.
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Typically they arrive a day early in their uniform which is different than direct appointees who are civilians when they arrive.
They are familiar with ranks, uniform handling, musters, marching, some PROKNOW, and other aspects of military processes and procedures.
They have a leg up in that respect.
If they are prior enlisted, they bring that experience to the table. But that may also mean they can be a few years older than the Detailers who are ordering them around on IDAy and throughout plebe summer and their time at the academy.
One of my son’s friends is a 4 year prior Navy enlisted. It was tough for him to say yes sir or ma’am to someone 5 years younger with no fleet experience. But he did it, and he’s an awesome asset.
I can’t speak to metrics. I do know one of my son’s complaint mates plebe year was a NAPS appointee and dropped based on physical and academic failures. Not saying that is typical. There are individual components to all things for sure.
They are familiar with ranks, uniform handling, musters, marching, some PROKNOW, and other aspects of military processes and procedures.
They have a leg up in that respect.
If they are prior enlisted, they bring that experience to the table. But that may also mean they can be a few years older than the Detailers who are ordering them around on IDAy and throughout plebe summer and their time at the academy.
One of my son’s friends is a 4 year prior Navy enlisted. It was tough for him to say yes sir or ma’am to someone 5 years younger with no fleet experience. But he did it, and he’s an awesome asset.
I can’t speak to metrics. I do know one of my son’s complaint mates plebe year was a NAPS appointee and dropped based on physical and academic failures. Not saying that is typical. There are individual components to all things for sure.
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The Navy is not going to invest a very expensive year at prep, have someone pass in all respects, then not be able to advance them to the SA because of the lack of a nomination,
I think this is something you can relax about
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Mine would have never been at NAPS except for the fact that they were dumb as rocks. Maybe a slight overstatement.
NAPS prepared them well. Naps was very tough and demanding. One graduated USNA and did quite well one time will tell since they are still at USNA.
The USNA grad now has several masters degrees as well. They have said that naps was the most important academic year of their life.
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Both of my boys had/have close friends who were prior enlisted/Naps. They are revered, especially plebe year. Young kids, who are clueless, latching on to them like a lifeline 
Which is good, and bad…one in particular got in a LOT of trouble for pushing boundaries that were deemed dumb by him. And younger plebes drinking their kool aid. You can see how that can go!
Point is, a NAPster comes in with a skill set that will be helpful for their company mates. And anyone that gets a NAPster as a plebe roomie feels lucky. Know that EVERYONE has something to add, though. My oldest was a sport recruit that brought points to his company in competitions. Others excel in memorization, and bring points in those competitions.
Eventually it all evens out.
Which is good, and bad…one in particular got in a LOT of trouble for pushing boundaries that were deemed dumb by him. And younger plebes drinking their kool aid. You can see how that can go!
Point is, a NAPster comes in with a skill set that will be helpful for their company mates. And anyone that gets a NAPster as a plebe roomie feels lucky. Know that EVERYONE has something to add, though. My oldest was a sport recruit that brought points to his company in competitions. Others excel in memorization, and bring points in those competitions.
Eventually it all evens out.
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NAPSters and Prepsters are handled differently. From what I've seen, NAPSters do arrive one day earlier but Prepsters come in with the directs. Academically, I'd say that they were both better prepared but militarily it was not always the case as some of the prep schools are military and the others are just post highschool prep programs with no military at all.
Leadership position wise - I'd say that NAPSters might have a slight edge during plebe year but for most that does not last. Someone who was actually in the fleet as a petty officer or USMC NCO would probably continue to be in leadership. We had one in my company and he is still somewhat of a leader in our group after all these years.
As for graduation rates, from stats that I've seen, it is lower. Not sure about Foundation Prep folks.
That’s fascinating
Does he have her nomination reflected in his portal?
God I hope you are right.
Turns out Sons had SecNav Nom since Sept.
Turns out Son has had a SecNav Nom. since Sept. Damn parents putting out **** they knew nothing about. Thank you to all the people here that said not to worry about it. Turns out you were right. For those going to NAPS IN 2024 all that's required is bring copies of all the stuff you sent in for your original Nom. so they have it to send for VP nom, they do it as an assignment when they get there. Other than that not a big deal.