NAPS to West Point?

Discussion in 'Service Academy Preparatory Schools' started by Lancer8, Sep 1, 2018.

  1. Lancer8

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    I'm currently at NAPS and was wondering about something since I came here. What would be the odds that I could get appointed to West Point after this year if I figured out I didn't want to go navy but wanted to go to West Point instead? Would I list West Point as a second option when applying for nominations? Is it even possible to go from one service academy's prep school to a different service academy?

    I accepted this offer to see how I would like academy life since there isn't a commitment at the end of this year that's why I ask the question. I'm also just curious because in our reef point book it listed people who had gone to NAPS but graduated from other academies.
     
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    I don’t knoe what contract, if any, you signed to attend NAPS, but atttending NAPS doesn’t guarantee your appointment to the Naval Academy so I suspect you are free to apply to other SAs.

    I am on my Congressman’s nomation panel and have seen a NAPS candidate ask for a nomination to another SA. We asked why during the interview.

    Just keep in mind if you decide to apply to another SA, probably won’t be able to keep it a secret from NAPS.
     
  3. usna1985

    usna1985 10-Year Member

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    I would be surprised if you would be admitted to USMA from NAPS for the same reasons that SAs don't admit applicants applying from one to another -- it comes across as "poaching" and might really be unseemly if recruited athletes are involved. While I don't think the MOCs would have a problem with it if you had the right reasons, I think USMA might be more circumspect b/c that goes around comes around.

    I won't go so far as to say there's no chance -- and someone will probably chime in that it's happened -- but I would think the circumstances would be quite unusual and I wouldn't in any way count on it happening.
     
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    time2 10-Year Member

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    ^^ I agree and you would also have to be in the application process for WP while attending NAPS which could be awkward. Your prior posts imply you got a TWE from WP on this last cycle.
     
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    Valid points, but too many unknowns. I did have a USMA coach tell me he won’t talk to a USNA recruit, but if if the candidate de-commits more than happy to talk to the recrui. To the original poster, follow your heart. This is one of the most important decision you will make in your life, so make it your decision and own it.
     
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    There's a difference between a h.s. recruit and someone who attending a prep school sponsored by a SA.

    Fully agree with following one's heart. However, it may not be easy (may be impossible) to do if following your heart means trying to apply to one SA directly from another or from another SA's prep school. If you're at MAPS and want to attend USNA, you may be better off quitting MAPS (if that's permitted) and then applying to USNA. Or finishing up MAPS, going to civilian college for a year, and then applying to USNA.

    The challenge is that, there is nothing written anywhere (of which I'm aware) that says you can't be accepted to one SA if currently attending another. However, in practice, it almost never happens. If it does, I would expect there are some VERY extenuating circumstances that go well beyond, "I changed my mind." I'm all for hopes, dreams and aspirations, but they need to be tempered with realism.
     
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    No two candidates are like. Commitment goes both ways as to a kid at prep school could be easily dropped or disqualified. A separate discussion is there are certain percentage of kids that don’t end up at SA. By no means I am saying going from a prep school to a different SA is easy or happens, but for whatever reason if the original poster wants to try, right or wrong, he or she can try. Sometimes the best lesson in the life is a hard lesson or a failure. It will be unamerican to do just do safe or practical things...
     
  8. Old Navy BGO

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    It is very clear that USNA will not admit candidates from another Service Academy , and vice versa, for the "poaching" purposes described above. NAPS may be different, but the considerations are the same. I would never counsel a candidate to attend NAPS with the intent of applying to another Service Academy , or if their true goal was attending another Service Academy. However, OP already made the decision to attend NAPS, so the question is 1) whether he can apply to West Point while attending NAPS, 2) would West Point consider admitting him, and 3) if he applies and is accepted, will Navy release him.

    First, with respect to 1) and 3), NAPsters enlist in the Navy, so OP should look at the terms of his enlistment contract to ensure that he can leave the Navy if accepted to USMA. It is my understanding that persons who enlist for NAPS can drop out, but I don't know if there is some tail Reserve committment. If a NAPSter is able to drop out at anytime, I wouldn't see any impediment to applying for West Point, and attending if admitted. That would explain the comment above seeing someone apply for nominations to multiple service academies from NAPS.

    I think the bigger question is 2) -- whether USMA would consider admitting someone from NAPS. While I get the comment about commitment going both ways, there are other factors involved. First, Navy is investing in a candidate from the minute they start NAPS (and Army is investing in their MAPS candidates). Second, while USNA is not committing to the NAPS candidate , it is as close to a sure thing as you can get -- as long as you successfully complete the program , USNA will find a spot for you. (As an aside, is a person who doesn't sucessfully complete NAPS really competitive to attend USMA ?). I don't think OP mentioned being a recruited athlete, but if thats the case, it adds additional candidates

    All in all, I would expect USMA to be extremely reluctant to accept a NAPSter, but would suggest that OP talk to his WP Field Force Rep to run the question up the West Point flagpole. If West Point is willing to consider the application, then I would recommend talking to his chain of command at NAPS, and let them know that he is still interested in attending USMA without burning bridges with USNA. The chain of command is going to find out sometime (I would suspect that USMA would at least want a recommendation from NAPS), so OP would be better off being upfront and getting support early than springing a surprise on NAPS leadership later.

    As a final note, while the Army /Navy rivalry is strong, this is really an issue of inter-collegiate ethics and what is best for the services, not USNA Admission's desire to BEAT ARMY. USNA Admissions and most BGO's really don't look at West Point as "competition". We all know that candidates often apply to multiple Service Academies, and while I will make a point to explain the differences and advantages of USNA over USMA, I never try to discourage a candidate from choosing the Service Academy that is right for him/her. Except for a certain Saturday in December, we are all on the same team.
     
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  9. Hubie1986

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    My question is are you a possible (or probably) corps squad or D1 athlete? Quit a few future Academy athletes went to the Prep School just to prove they could handle college level courses due to below average academic and standardized test scores. If that is the case with you, I would strongly suggest you not try and make that move. A coach most likely had some input and went out on a limb to get you a spot there if that is the case.

    If that is not the case, then is is certainly possible but not common. My room mate 1st semester Cow/Junior year at West Point was an USAFA exchange cadet. He was commissioned as a Marine pilot. Go figure.
     
  10. Lancer8

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    I'm not a recruited athlete. I contacted West Point though and admissions said that I'd have to quit NAPS before January and then reapply to West Point. I'm not ready to disenrole and I'll finish this year out. However, the army has many other opportunities that interest me than the navy.