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What are the chances of getting into NASS without posting scores for the standardized tests? I have great extra-curriculars and academics.
 
mcneill18d said:
What are the chances of getting into NASS without posting scores for the standardized tests? I have great extra-curriculars and academics.
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From the Naval Academy website, specifically what they use as selection criteria: "Superior high school performance to include: GPA, class standing, and/or strong PSAT, SAT, or ACT results (test scores not required, but recommended)."

If you don't have at least the PSAT, they might wonder why, as most 11th graders who are college bound have taken the test. If you have taken the PSAT (or SAT/ACT) and just don't like your scores, that's not a reason to omit them.
 
mcneill18d said:
What are the chances of getting into NASS without posting scores for the standardized tests? I have great extra-curriculars and academics.
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May depend what part of the country you're from. I don't think that omission would fly from a kid here in Virginia. If you don't like your scores, you can address that in one of the spaces allotted for discussion of academics, and your plan to improve your scores.
 
Our son was accepted last week for NASS Session 1. He also attended CVW last October. Has 3.75 GPA, combined SAT of 1130 (540 R/W and 590 Math). 1 sport athlete but he will have lettered 4 years - team captain this year and hopefully next year. Attending high school with a class size of over 600 students and ranks in the top 20%. Currently taking AP Calculus I, AP History, AP English, Honors Chemistry, Principles of Engineering and Computer Art. For his senior year, plans to enroll in AP Calculus II and AP Physics. Wants to major in engineering and serve his country. We believe his participation in a varsity sport for 3 years and taking challenging courses has resulted the lower GPA and SAT Scores. He plans to take the ACT and retake the SAT soon.

I have seen posts with 4.0+ GPAs and 1300-1400 SATs. With that said, does our son have a legitimate shot at USNA?

How much weight does NASS carry for admission if our son does well (ie. max out on CFA)?

Have candidates been denied admission to USNA/NAPS even though they have been invited to CVW and NASS?
 
socalprospect said:
Our son was accepted last week for NASS Session 1. He also attended CVW last October. Has 3.75 GPA, combined SAT of 1130 (540 R/W and 590 Math). 1 sport athlete but he will have lettered 4 years - team captain this year and hopefully next year. Attending high school with a class size of over 600 students and ranks in the top 20%. Currently taking AP Calculus I, AP History, AP English, Honors Chemistry, Principles of Engineering and Computer Art. For his senior year, plans to enroll in AP Calculus II and AP Physics. Wants to major in engineering and serve his country. We believe his participation in a varsity sport for 3 years and taking challenging courses has resulted the lower GPA and SAT Scores. He plans to take the ACT and retake the SAT soon.

I have seen posts with 4.0+ GPAs and 1300-1400 SATs. With that said, does our son have a legitimate shot at USNA?

How much weight does NASS carry for admission if our son does well (ie. max out on CFA)?

Have candidates been denied admission to USNA/NAPS even though they have been invited to CVW and NASS?
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Last question first; yes, many have not been given an appointment after NASS. It is their first look at the candidate and their detailer will give a report but it is largely a recruiting program. It is an awesome and many times life-changing week, however.

Maxing out the CFA will give a boost, but not the NASS experience itself.

Varsity Captain is seen as desirable, so that's good. Class rank and test scores are certainly in the window, if maybe on the lower end but as I'm sure others will tell you, no one here is on the committee so we can only give vague answers.
 
socalprospect said:
Our son was accepted last week for NASS Session 1. He also attended CVW last October. Has 3.75 GPA, combined SAT of 1130 (540 R/W and 590 Math). 1 sport athlete but he will have lettered 4 years - team captain this year and hopefully next year. Attending high school with a class size of over 600 students and ranks in the top 20%. Currently taking AP Calculus I, AP History, AP English, Honors Chemistry, Principles of Engineering and Computer Art. For his senior year, plans to enroll in AP Calculus II and AP Physics. Wants to major in engineering and serve his country. We believe his participation in a varsity sport for 3 years and taking challenging courses has resulted the lower GPA and SAT Scores. He plans to take the ACT and retake the SAT soon.

I have seen posts with 4.0+ GPAs and 1300-1400 SATs. With that said, does our son have a legitimate shot at USNA?

How much weight does NASS carry for admission if our son does well (ie. max out on CFA)?

Have candidates been denied admission to USNA/NAPS even though they have been invited to CVW and NASS?
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Regarding your question about the weight of NASS even with a max CFA score, the answer is zero.

Regarding your question about being denied admissions to USNA and NAPS despite an invitation to CVW and acceptance NASS, the answer is yes, it has happened.

Regarding your question about legitimate shot, no one here on this forum knows. It's for the Admissions Committee to decide. That being said, your DS taking the SATs over again or taking the ACTs is a great move. His current scores are not as competitive as they should be.
 
socalprospect said:
Our son was accepted last week for NASS Session 1. He also attended CVW last October. Has 3.75 GPA, combined SAT of 1130 (540 R/W and 590 Math). 1 sport athlete but he will have lettered 4 years - team captain this year and hopefully next year. Attending high school with a class size of over 600 students and ranks in the top 20%. Currently taking AP Calculus I, AP History, AP English, Honors Chemistry, Principles of Engineering and Computer Art. For his senior year, plans to enroll in AP Calculus II and AP Physics. Wants to major in engineering and serve his country. We believe his participation in a varsity sport for 3 years and taking challenging courses has resulted the lower GPA and SAT Scores. He plans to take the ACT and retake the SAT soon.

I have seen posts with 4.0+ GPAs and 1300-1400 SATs. With that said, does our son have a legitimate shot at USNA?

How much weight does NASS carry for admission if our son does well (ie. max out on CFA)?

Have candidates been denied admission to USNA/NAPS even though they have been invited to CVW and NASS?
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A lot depends on if you are in a competitive district. (Not trying to shoot you or your son down at all but) I know people including myself with statistically a better shot of getting in (higher test scores, more ECs) but I haven't even gotten accepted to NASS yet because my district is very competitive. There is no real way to see your chances without knowing the stats of other people in your district that are applying. Try to have him take an SAT prep classes because to be competitive you need over a 600 in math and English.
 
socalprospect said:
Our son was accepted last week for NASS Session 1. He also attended CVW last October. Has 3.75 GPA, combined SAT of 1130 (540 R/W and 590 Math). 1 sport athlete but he will have lettered 4 years - team captain this year and hopefully next year. Attending high school with a class size of over 600 students and ranks in the top 20%. Currently taking AP Calculus I, AP History, AP English, Honors Chemistry, Principles of Engineering and Computer Art. For his senior year, plans to enroll in AP Calculus II and AP Physics. Wants to major in engineering and serve his country. We believe his participation in a varsity sport for 3 years and taking challenging courses has resulted the lower GPA and SAT Scores. He plans to take the ACT and retake the SAT soon.

I have seen posts with 4.0+ GPAs and 1300-1400 SATs. With that said, does our son have a legitimate shot at USNA?

How much weight does NASS carry for admission if our son does well (ie. max out on CFA)?

Have candidates been denied admission to USNA/NAPS even though they have been invited to CVW and NASS?
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There is no correlation between NASS and a USNA appointment. This is a fact stated repeatedly by USNA admissions. Many who attend NASS will not receive appointments, and many who are turned down for NASS will ultimately become Plebes. More than 2,500 kids attend NASS, but only about 1,200 applicants receive appointments. I have seen official reports from USNA that over 1/3 of appointees did not attend NASS. My son (Class of 2020) received a CVW invite as a junior but no invite to NASS. He says he personally knows only one plebe in his company who attended NASS. NASS is a recruiting tool and not accurately predictive of success as an applicant.

 
Thank you all for your responses.

We're from California with 53 congressional districts. Our son has met with the USNA assistant coaches and head coach. They described that a larger percentage of applicants from California apply to Air Force Academy versus USNA. I'm not certain how competitive our district is - it's very rare to hear students in our area to attend USNA. The coaches seem interested in him with their email correspondence on the admission process and keeping them updated with his athletic progress. Our son is not a 5-star athlete, but the USNA coaches indicated that he fills a desired roster spot. Hopefully he could boost up his SAT scores.
 
@socalprospect, I agree with what others have said about NASS and CVW. I see biggest value for NASS, even for those already know they are applying to USNA, as getting the CFA done in June especially if the candidate prepares for it.

Regardless of his competitions in his school and his MoC district, I recommend doing the best he can in his STEM classes this year and next, and work hard to improve his SAT scores by fall of this year, and maybe give ACT a try as well. His standard scores could be his Achilles heel. There are plenty of great suggestions on the forum within last 12 months on how to improve. I recall at least one post from @Just Dad and one from @Cerberi. Best of luck!!!
 
Will acceptance emails be coming out in several bursts or just here and there until May?
 
I got my acceptance letter for session 1 today!! Is there anyone else going during those dates?
 
DS accepted to NASS 3 today. And so begins this journey again. And, for what it's worth, I disagree with someone earlier that said NASS attendance has no bearing on a possible later acceptance to USNA. Older son attended NASS in 2013 and received an LOA to USNA early in the Fall with a handwritten note on the letter from the Director of Admissions stating "Good job at NASS", so I have to think that performance at NASS can have some weight. Congrats to all of you who were accepted. Hang in there to those still waiting.
 
grevar said:
DS accepted to NASS 3 today. And so begins this journey again. And, for what it's worth, I disagree with someone earlier that said NASS attendance has no bearing on a possible later acceptance to USNA. Older son attended NASS in 2013 and received an LOA to USNA early in the Fall with a handwritten note on the letter from the Director of Admissions stating "Good job at NASS", so I have to think that performance at NASS can have some weight. Congrats to all of you who were accepted. Hang in there to those still waiting.
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Some people do seem a little aggressively down on NASS. There may be some new people who think that it's a shoe-in and so people want to tamp that down but what I've heard from most people was simply; 1) great experience 2) you do get an application going and a CFA entered and 3) your detailer writes up a little report on you. So, it doesn't mean everything but it doesn't mean nothing.
 
mpete2150 said:
Some people do seem a little aggressively down on NASS. There may be some new people who think that it's a shoe-in and so people want to tamp that down but what I've heard from most people was simply; 1) great experience 2) you do get an application going and a CFA entered and 3) your detailer writes up a little report on you. So, it doesn't mean everything but it doesn't mean nothing.
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It's really more as reassurance to people who didn't get in, which is 100% true; getting in here doesn't guarantee admission, nor does not getting in guarantee rejection.

That's not to say that it doesn't help or that it isn't competitive or that it gives you some projectable odds, it just doesn't mean everything.
 
Accepted to NASS Session 1 today! I applied maybe 2 weeks after the application opened for those wondering.
 
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