Navy Flight School Q and A

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Just wanted to drop a thread and provide a write up and answer questions related to the flight school process for Navy, Marine, and Coast Guard students. I am one flight away from completing flight school, so I am at the tail end of my time in the orange and white (color of Navy training aircraft). For clarification, I am a Student Naval Aviator (pilot). I can speak to very basic generics about the NFO side of flight school. Anyway, here goes nothing and I look forward to your questions:

Step 1: Commissioning. Whether it is through USNA, NROTC, OCS, SSMP, USCGA, USMMA, PLC or any other program, congrats and welcome to the Officer Corps! In aviation, being an ENS/2nd Lt is not a bad life. People don't expect too much out of you (i.e. not a lot of responsibility) and you get a decent paycheck.

Step 1.5: Marines complete TBS. I am Navy, so I headed straight down Pensacola after my TAD time at USNA, but new Marines go to learn the rifleman stuff for 6 months in Quantico.

Step 2: Naval Introductory Flight Evaluation (NIFE)/Naval Aviation Schools Command/NAS Pensacola:
NIFE is a four-phase program. The course is identical for all branches and designators (Pilot and NFO). There also could be other designators like flight surgeons or AVOs (UAV pilots) in your class. The Navy also provides flight training to allied countries, so you will most likely see international students too. Phase One is known as A-Pool and you complete water survival training, get your initial NAMI flight physical completed, do an inventory PRT (called the APIT), knock out a couple classes on ethics and Naval Aviation history, and muster. I also heard they just started a JO course to keep all the new students busy. Otherwise, your time is yours. Some people pick up a hobby, others day drink, most people go to the beach, but needless to say you have a fair amount of time on your hands. After a short to long wait, you head to Phase Two.

Phase Two is academics. You will take seven tests: Aerodynamics, Engines, Flight Rules and Regulations, Navigation, Weather, and Flight Prep. Classes typically are three to four days long. You will take ~2 tests a week. The minimum passing score is an 80. Class averages usually hover in the low to mid 90s. This is your first exposure to flight school learning: learning stuff you knew nothing about in a short amount of time and then being evaluated on your comprehension soon after your introduction. In less words, the fire hose. If you fail a test, you get a pink sheet (UNSAT grade sheets are printed in pink) a PRB and a roll to the next class. Two fails might mean you're done. The difficulty is not the material itself, but rather the volume of it. Not all of it is need to know and determining which information is fluff can be hard. After you pass your last test (Flight Prep), you have your first big milestone of your Naval Aviation career: Flight Suit Friday. You take all your tests in khakis/chucks/trops. You have proved you can hang knowledge wise and now can wear the bag! You also get to drink at the O Club with your classmates! Next, you head to the airplane.

Phase Three is flying. You get seven flights in a Cessna 172. You complete takeoffs, landings, aerial maneuver, and emergency procedures training. Every flight begins with a brief on items you are assigned to learn about for that day's flight. They can vary from airspace, to airport markings, to a specific maneuver. After the brief, you then head to plane to go fly. Some people get airsick, but airsickness is treatable and the airsickness remediation program in flight school has something like a 98% success rate. Your last flight is a checkride and then it is off to Phase Four.

Phase Four consists of two days of training and the lag time between finishing the course and graduation. The two days of training are land survival and water survival. Land survival focuses on ejection, survival radios, and parachuting. Water survival is mainly focused on swimming with flight gear on, helicopter rescue, ejecting over water, and underwater egress. This is where you'll do the infamous helo dunker. You have to do three rides (two day and one night/blindfolded). Pretty much everyone makes it through. The instructors are really good about easing you into it. After that, pilots will do PCS admin and NFOs will do admin to head to their Primary squadron, VT-10. Pilots will head to NAS Whiting Field in Milton, FL (just outside Pensacola) or NAS Corpus Christi for Primary.

Step 3: Primary Flight Training/Training Air Wing Four/Five/NAS Corpus Christi/NAS Whiting Field-North:

You will fly the T-6B Texan II, which is a high-performance, aerobatic, single-engine turboprop. You will fly with Navy, Marine, Coast Guard, and sometimes Air Force and international instructors. You will get around 70 hours and will cover basic airmanship (turns, landings, straight and level, stalls, emergencies, etc.), aerobatics, formation flying, instrument navigation, and visual navigation. It varies, but I'd say the average time to train is 6-9 months. You will learn a lot of information quickly and you will be expected to apply that information while flying the plane. Every flight is graded which is how they rank students when it comes to selection. After you complete Primary, you will select (in reality, you will be assigned) an aircraft track to fly. The choices are Jets, E-2s, Maritime (P-8s), Helos, CMV-22s and E-6s for Navy. Marines can select Jets, Helos, C-130s, or MV-22s. Coast Guard SNAs will either select Helos or Fixed-Wing. They are assigned with the following priorities: 1. Needs of the service 2. Your performance 3. Your preferences. You will only put your top three preferences down if you are Navy. Both Navy and Marine Jets and E-2s require you to be in the top half of your class to be considered. After your selection, you'll head to one of many different places for Intermediate and Advanced training.

Step 3.5: Intermediate Flight Training/Training Air Wing Four/Five/NAS Corpus Christi/NAS Whiting Field-South:

Both (C)MV-22s and E-2s have Intermediate syllabi. In other words, they will do an abridged syllabus at an Advanced location. -22s will do an abridged helicopter syllabus before heading to Multi-Engine Advanced and E-2s will do an abridged multi-engine syllabus before heading to Jet Advanced.

Step 4: Advanced Flight Training/Training Air Wing One/Two/Four/Five/NAS Meridian/NAS Kingsville/NAS Corpus Christi/NAS Whiting Field-South:

Advanced builds on the foundation set in Primary and applies it to aircraft resembling your ultimate platform. You also gain a basic exposure to skills required to operate in the Fleet (I.e. Helo students will learn logistics while Jet students will learn BFM). NAS Meridian and NAS Kingsville host Jet Advanced (T-45C) (E-2s do the first part of Jet Advanced for their Advanced), NAS Corpus Christi hosts Multi-Engine Advanced (T-44C), and NAS Whiting Field hosts Helo Advanced (TH-57/TH-73). I selected E-6s, so I am in Multi-Engine Advanced. For my syllabus, we learn crew coordination, single-engine handling (what happens when an engine fails), advanced instrument navigation, and concepts relating to handling large and complex aircraft (autopilot operation, usage of flight management computers, etc.). Crew coordination sounds easy, but it takes getting used to. In the T-6, you fly as if you are single-piloted. You run the checklists, fly the plane, talk on the radio, and set up the navigation systems. In the T-44 we have standard duties, phraseology, and procedures to ensure we back each other up. An easy example is the pilot not flying will say the checklist while the pilot flying will do the action item. Another example is that the pilot not flying will handle the radio communication so the pilot flying can focus on flying and the aircraft systems. Like Primary, every flight is graded. Multi-Engine Advanced is unique in the sense that most people know where they are headed. Marine C-130s will choose which squadron location they'll go to and Coast Guard will pick their location, and by virture, aircraft. For Navy, we know showing up where we are headed. Other Advanced locations will again have students select a coast and final platform (Ex. F/A-18s East, F-35s, F/A-18 West, EA-18Gs for Jet Advanced). After you finish, you get your wings of gold and you are a Naval Aviator!

There is my brief write-up. I could go into a lot of detail, but I can only write so much! Ask away!
 
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This is great!! TYSM for taking the time to write and share.

And congrats to you on your near-completion!!

Fly Navy ✈️
 
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@Usnavy2019

Thank you, o nascent servant leader, for taking this time to come back and give a flight-deck eye view. So useful! Much more fun than me posting a diagram of the aviation career path.

Be sure to come back and post a photo of your new wings of gold gleaming on your chest, signaling your transformation into a bona fide naval aviator and going from 1390 to 1310 designator. You are allowed to paste in Tecumseh’s or Bill the Goat’s face (2 or 4-footed) for yours.
 
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@Usnavy2019

Thank you, o nascent servant leader, for taking this time to come back and give a flight-deck eye view. So useful! Much more fun than me posting a diagram of the aviation career path.

Be sure to come back and post a photo of your new wings of gold gleaming on your chest, signaling your transformation into a bona fide naval aviator and going from 1390 to 1410 designator. You are allowed to paste in Tecumseh’s or Bill the Goat’s face (2 or 4-footed) for yours.
My pleasure! I've been on the forums for 10 years (in March) and I still remember the days of me being an applicant after any knowledge I could find. It is crazy how time flies, but I am happy to be in a position to give something back! I'll be sure to post!!
 
Super brief that brought back some distant memories. A couple of questions:
Is the flight grading criteria in primary based on AA-Above Average, A-Average, and BA-Below Average as it was back in the day? Is there a night nav solo requirement for SNA's during primary? Are flight hours still maintained in the blue Aviator Flight Log Book? What phase of flight training was the most challenging for you?

Good luck in your chosen platform. Fly safe.
 
Super brief that brought back some distant memories. A couple of questions:
Is the flight grading criteria in primary based on AA-Above Average, A-Average, and BA-Below Average as it was back in the day? Is there a night nav solo requirement for SNA's during primary? Are flight hours still maintained in the blue Aviator Flight Log Book? What phase of flight training was the most challenging for you?

Good luck in your chosen platform. Fly safe.
1. No, it is a numerical scale now (1-5).
1=IP Demo/Not Graded
2= Unable
3= Safe, but limited proficiency (The IP had to help you and your deviations exceeded standards without prompt and self-initiated corrections)
4= Good (You did it correctly and without the help of the IP)
5= Exceeds standards

Each maneuver has a minimum grade assigned to it that you must get by the end of the block. The grades increase every block within a phase (Contacts, RIs, etc.)

2. Nope. We get night time, but that is mainly done through instruments. We have a night nav flight, but it is dual.

3. Yep! Still issuing it to this day.

4. I think it was Primary for me. Primary felt very formal and evaluative. It was also stressful since you are competing for your platform so it felt like every grade mattered. You are also getting introduced to how the Navy does flying, so some things that felt normal in Advanced (like the overhead or certain phraseology) took a bit to learn. I also work the hardest in Primary. I would call the engineers at the manufacturer with systems questions (I needed to know how things work to give a good systems brief) and I was always in the sims in my off time.
 
Was your first choice the E-6? Or did you have other aspirations to begin with? I know that airframe translates over incredibly well to be a civilian pilot.

How many students in your class?

Oh, and fantastic write up with amazing insight into the process. I'm definitely going to have my kid take a look at this!
 
Was your first choice the E-6? Or did you have other aspirations to begin with? I know that airframe translates over incredibly well to be a civilian pilot.

How many students in your class?

Oh, and fantastic write up with amazing insight into the process. I'm definitely going to have my kid take a look at this!
It was! I think the mission is interesting and I like the flying the E-6 does (long missions with a whole lot of instrument navigation). Also, with world events being the way they are, nuclear deterrence is very relevant right now. I honestly think it is one of the Navy's best kept secrets. While you deploy frequently, they are all CONUS deployments. So even when you are deployed, it is easier to stay in touch with the homefront. Like you said, heavy turbine multi-engine time is always in style for the airlines. My plan is to fly for the airlines after the military, but I want to do 20 active and more if the Nation is in need of servicemembers (and the Navy wants to keep me around). I jumped around platform and designator (Pilot and NFO) as a MIDN, but I always wanted to fly. Primary is really good about exposing you to all types of Navy flying. I loved instruments, the E-6 pilots I flew with, the mission, and I didn't mind being stationed in the Midwest or doing CONUS deployments. I came in wanting E-2s, but through flying the T-6, I determined I didn't want to do a longer stint in flight school and I liked instruments more than I liked aerobatics or formation flying. I didn't get airsick or anything, but my love for flying is going places, flying high, and taking in the views.

By the end of Primary, I had my preferences, but I saw how each community played a role and had its good and bad deals. I knew regardless of what came back on selection day, I knew I had a very significant blessing in that I could fly a military aircraft and go downrange for Uncle Sam, its people, and its values. I was just lucky I got my first choice.

Classes are not really set in stone for the Navy. In USAF land, classes are a cohort. In the Navy, you start together in a class, but you may lose/gain folks due to medical delays, rolls, etc. In NIFE, my class started out with ~40 people, but we weren't all pilots. The class was half SNFO (to include a German SNFO). My class was unique in that we had no flight surgeons or other aviation designators.

In Primary, my class was ~10-15, but that is only the number you start ground school with. You pretty much finish when you finish. I finished a bit early on for my class, but I also finished with a guy who started months before me (a lot of weather delays for him). I'd say the squadron has 150 students. Primary's job is to produce as many students as possible for Advanced. Advanced is where they meter progression for Fleet Replacement Squadron demands. The Fleet Replacement Squadron is where one goes to learn their fleet aircraft (e.g. the E-6).

In Advanced (at least Multi-Engine), the class is a cohort since you are grouped by winging date. When you check in, you are given your wing date and scheduling will do everything in their power to keep you and your classmates on track. My Advanced class is 7 or 8. I don't know the student load for my squadron right now, but it is definitely less than 150. Keep in mind, the metering seems to be specific to Multi-Engine. Talking to friends in other syllabi, they pretty much finish when they finish.
 
How do the type of aircraft, and where you will be stationed, come together? How does that work?
 
How do the type of aircraft, and where you will be stationed, come together? How does that work?
Location is primarily based on airframe. In other words, pick your aircraft and that determines where you can be stationed. Some communities have multiple options and some communities have their entire (or almost entire) community based at one location. For flight school, each Training Air Wing (the unit that commands the squadrons located at the Naval Air Station in question) provides specific training. The Training Air Wings are spread out across the Southeast, so whatever track you select out of Primary determines where you go for Advanced. Here is a list:

Fleet:
C-2: NAS North Island, CA or NS Norfolk, VA
CMV-22: Same as C-2 (replacing C-2)
E-2: NAS Point Mugu, CA, NS Norfolk, VA, MCAS Iwakuni, Japan
E-6: Tinker AFB, OK
EA-18: NAS Whidbey Island, WA, MCAS Iwakuni, Japan
EP-3: NAS Whidbey Island, WA
F-35: NAS Lemoore
F/A-18: NAS Lemoore, NAS Oceana, VA, or MCAS Iwakuni, Japan
MH-53: NS Norfolk, VA
MH-60R: NAS North Island, CA, NS Mayport, FL, NAS Jacksonville, FL, MCAS Kanehoe Bay, HI, NAF Atsugi, Japan
MH-60S: NAS North Island, CA, NS Norfolk, VA, Andersen AFB, Guam, NAF Atsugi, Japan
P-8: NAS Whidbey Island, WA, NAS Jacksonville, FL

Flight School:

Training Air Wing One (Advanced Jet and in the T-45): NAS Meridian, MS
Training Air Wing Two (Advanced Jet and E-2 in the T-45): NAS Kingsville, TX
Training Air Wing Four (Primary in the T-6, E-2 Intermediate, and Multi-Engine Advanced in the T-44): NAS Corpus Christi, TX
Training Air Wing Five (Primary in the T-6, Intermediate CMV-22, Advanced Helicopters in the TH-57/TH-73 ): NAS Whiting Field, FL (Whiting is unique in that there are two airfields on one base. North Field is the Primary field and South Field is the Helo field.)
Training Air Wing Six (NFO Primary in the T-6, Intermediate in the T-6 and Multi-Crew Simulator, and Advanced in the T-45 and Multi-Crew Simulator): NAS Pensacola, FL
 
So for the fleet, and for your aircraft, how is it determined that you go to CA or Japan, for example for the MH60-R?
 
Just wanted to drop a thread and provide a write up and answer questions related to the flight school process for Navy, Marine, and Coast Guard students. I am one flight away from completing flight school, so I am at the tail end of my time in the orange and white (color of Navy training aircraft). For clarification, I am a Student Naval Aviator (pilot). I can speak to very basic generics about the NFO side of flight school. Anyway, here goes nothing and I look forward to your questions:

Step 1: Commissioning. Whether it is through USNA, NROTC, OCS, SSMP, USCGA, USMMA, PLC or any other program, congrats and welcome to the Officer Corps! In aviation, being an ENS/2nd Lt is not a bad life. People don't expect too much out of you (i.e. not a lot of responsibility) and you get a decent paycheck.

Step 1.5: Marines complete TBS. I am Navy, so I headed straight down Pensacola after my TAD time at USNA, but new Marines go to learn the rifleman stuff for 6 months in Quantico.

Step 2: Naval Introductory Flight Evaluation (NIFE)/Naval Aviation Schools Command/NAS Pensacola:
NIFE is a four-phase program. The course is identical for all branches and designators (Pilot and NFO). There also could be other designators like flight surgeons or AVOs (UAV pilots) in your class. The Navy also provides flight training to allied countries, so you will most likely see international students too. Phase One is known as A-Pool and you complete water survival training, get your initial NAMI flight physical completed, do an inventory PRT (called the APIT), knock out a couple classes on ethics and Naval Aviation history, and muster. I also heard they just started a JO course to keep all the new students busy. Otherwise, your time is yours. Some people pick up a hobby, others day drink, most people go to the beach, but needless to say you have a fair amount of time on your hands. After a short to long wait, you head to Phase Two.

Phase Two is academics. You will take seven tests: Aerodynamics, Engines, Flight Rules and Regulations, Navigation, Weather, and Flight Prep. Classes typically are three to four days long. You will take ~2 tests a week. The minimum passing score is an 80. Class averages usually hover in the low to mid 90s. This is your first exposure to flight school learning: learning stuff you knew nothing about in a short amount of time and then being evaluated on your comprehension soon after your introduction. In less words, the fire hose. If you fail a test, you get a pink sheet (UNSAT grade sheets are printed in pink) a PRB and a roll to the next class. Two fails might mean you're done. The difficulty is not the material itself, but rather the volume of it. Not all of it is need to know and determining which information is fluff can be hard. After you pass your last test (Flight Prep), you have your first big milestone of your Naval Aviation career: Flight Suit Friday. You take all your tests in khakis/chucks/trops. You have proved you can hang knowledge wise and now can wear the bag! You also get to drink at the O Club with your classmates! Next, you head to the airplane.

Phase Three is flying. You get seven flights in a Cessna 172. You complete takeoffs, landings, aerial maneuver, and emergency procedures training. Every flight begins with a brief on items you are assigned to learn about for that day's flight. They can vary from airspace, to airport markings, to a specific maneuver. After the brief, you then head to plane to go fly. Some people get airsick, but airsickness is treatable and the airsickness remediation program in flight school has something like a 98% success rate. Your last flight is a checkride and then it is off to Phase Four.

Phase Four consists of two days of training and the lag time between finishing the course and graduation. The two days of training are land survival and water survival. Land survival focuses on ejection, survival radios, and parachuting. Water survival is mainly focused on swimming with flight gear on, helicopter rescue, ejecting over water, and underwater egress. This is where you'll do the infamous helo dunker. You have to do three rides (two day and one night/blindfolded). Pretty much everyone makes it through. The instructors are really good about easing you into it. After that, pilots will do PCS admin and NFOs will do admin to head to their Primary squadron, VT-10. Pilots will head to NAS Whiting Field in Milton, FL (just outside Pensacola) or NAS Corpus Christi for Primary.

Step 3: Primary Flight Training/Training Air Wing Four/Five/NAS Corpus Christi/NAS Whiting Field-North:

You will fly the T-6B Texan II, which is a high-performance, aerobatic, single-engine turboprop. You will fly with Navy, Marine, Coast Guard, and sometimes Air Force and international instructors. You will get around 70 hours and will cover basic airmanship (turns, landings, straight and level, stalls, emergencies, etc.), aerobatics, formation flying, instrument navigation, and visual navigation. It varies, but I'd say the average time to train is 6-9 months. You will learn a lot of information quickly and you will be expected to apply that information while flying the plane. Every flight is graded which is how they rank students when it comes to selection. After you complete Primary, you will select (in reality, you will be assigned) an aircraft track to fly. The choices are Jets, E-2s, Maritime (P-8s), Helos, CMV-22s and E-6s for Navy. Marines can select Jets, Helos, C-130s, or MV-22s. Coast Guard SNAs will either select Helos or Fixed-Wing. They are assigned with the following priorities: 1. Needs of the service 2. Your performance 3. Your preferences. You will only put your top three preferences down if you are Navy. Both Navy and Marine Jets and E-2s require you to be in the top half of your class to be considered. After your selection, you'll head to one of many different places for Intermediate and Advanced training.

Step 3.5: Intermediate Flight Training/Training Air Wing Four/Five/NAS Corpus Christi/NAS Whiting Field-South:

Both (C)MV-22s and E-2s have Intermediate syllabi. In other words, they will do an abridged syllabus at an Advanced location. -22s will do an abridged helicopter syllabus before heading to Multi-Engine Advanced and E-2s will do an abridged multi-engine syllabus before heading to Jet Advanced.

Step 4: Advanced Flight Training/Training Air Wing One/Two/Four/Five/NAS Meridian/NAS Kingsville/NAS Corpus Christi/NAS Whiting Field-South:

Advanced builds on the foundation set in Primary and applies it to aircraft resembling your ultimate platform. You also gain a basic exposure to skills required to operate in the Fleet (I.e. Helo students will learn logistics while Jet students will learn BFM). NAS Meridian and NAS Kingsville host Jet Advanced (T-45C) (E-2s do the first part of Jet Advanced for their Advanced), NAS Corpus Christi hosts Multi-Engine Advanced (T-44C), and NAS Whiting Field hosts Helo Advanced (TH-57/TH-73). I selected E-6s, so I am in Multi-Engine Advanced. For my syllabus, we learn crew coordination, single-engine handling (what happens when an engine fails), advanced instrument navigation, and concepts relating to handling large and complex aircraft (autopilot operation, usage of flight management computers, etc.). Crew coordination sounds easy, but it takes getting used to. In the T-6, you fly as if you are single-piloted. You run the checklists, fly the plane, talk on the radio, and set up the navigation systems. In the T-44 we have standard duties, phraseology, and procedures to ensure we back each other up. An easy example is the pilot not flying will say the checklist while the pilot flying will do the action item. Another example is that the pilot not flying will handle the radio communication so the pilot flying can focus on flying and the aircraft systems. Like Primary, every flight is graded. Multi-Engine Advanced is unique in the sense that most people know where they are headed. Marine C-130s will choose which squadron location they'll go to and Coast Guard will pick their location, and by virture, aircraft. For Navy, we know showing up where we are headed. Other Advanced locations will again have students select a coast and final platform (Ex. F/A-18s East, F-35s, F/A-18 West, EA-18Gs for Jet Advanced). After you finish, you get your wings of gold and you are a Naval Aviator!

There is my brief write-up. I could go into a lot of detail, but I can only write so much! Ask away!
How do you think the Academy has prepared you for flight school? Do you think that SA grads see an advantage over other commissioning sources in the sense that it teaches you how to handle the workload?
 
So for the fleet, and for your aircraft, how is it determined that you go to CA or Japan, for example for the MH60-R?
Oh, gotcha! So it depends a bit on the platform. My platform only has one location, so I will be there no matter what. For communities like helos or jets, they'll have multiple FRS locations. FRS's are the squadrons that train you to fly your fleet aircraft.

Ex. So let's say you're finishing up Jet Advanced. You are ranked based off your grades and your preferences are matched up between your grades and the needs of the Navy. Coming out of Jets you can choose -18s West, -18s East, -35s, and -18Gs. Let's say you select -18s West. You'll head out to NAS Lemoore for FRS training. During the FRS, you will then put in your preferences for single and two seat and what location you want (to include Japan). Like earlier, you are selected based on the needs of the service, performance, and your preferences. After that selection, you'll receive orders to a squadron. While usually people will stay on the same coast as their FRS, it is not unheard of that someone in the Lemoore FRS will get orders to NAS Oceana or vice versa.
 
How do you think the Academy has prepared you for flight school? Do you think that SA grads see an advantage over other commissioning sources in the sense that it teaches you how to handle the workload?
I think the Academy did help me with just understanding the Navy in general and how to do stuff like memorize things quickly and regurgitate them under stress (so rates and chow calls do actually help you to some degree). The Academy also did a good job showing that Naval Aviation isn't just kicking the fires and lighting the fires. There is a lot of work involved in becoming a good pilot and a lot of work to stay good. Unfortunately, it's not just dress whites and fighting in a complex environment off instinct. However, a USNA ENS is treated the same as an NROTC ENS and the same as an OCS ENS. You see plenty of non-Academy people crush the syllabus and some USNA grads who struggle. Flight School learning is different than school learning so the people who do the best figure out what works for them quickly. That isn't commissioning source specific.
 
If you are a pilot for a carrier based aircraft, are you still assigned to a land-based unit and the birds are then assigned to a carrier squadron when deployed?? Or does a CVN have a permanently assigned squadron to which after training a pilot is then placed?
 
Thanks again for taking time to do this. You mention a few times, ‘…ranked based off grades…’. I have heard/read that (not sure I’m saying this correctly) assignments aren’t necessarily merit based. That there are some top, middle and lower merit assignments, to aircraft and location, made. To a pond, for example, all the top performers in a class picking the same aircraft. Can you speak to this at all?
 
If you are a pilot for a carrier based aircraft, are you still assigned to a land-based unit and the birds are then assigned to a carrier squadron when deployed?? Or does a CVN have a permanently assigned squadron to which after training a pilot is then placed?
If you are assigned to a carrier-based squadron, you will technically be land-based. (E.g. VAW-123 is based out of NS Norfolk). However, carrier-based squadrons are assigned to Carrier Air Wings (CVWs). Carrier Air Wings then deploy on carriers. Carrier Air Wings themselves are also land based and have squadrons from different locations assigned to them.

Ex. Carrier Air Wing Two is assigned to USS Carl Vinson. CVW-2 is homeported at NAS Lemoore, CA. The USS Carl Vinson is homeported at NAS North Island, CA.

The squadrons assigned to CVW-2 are:
VFA-2 (F/A-18F NAS Lemoore)
VFA-113 (F/A-18E NAS Lemoore)
VFA-147 (F-35C NAS Lemoore)
VFA-192 (F-/A-18E NAS Lemoore)
VAW-113 (E-2D NAS Point Mugu)
VRC-30 Det 2 (C-2A NAS North Island)
VAQ-136 (EA-18G NAS Whidbey Island)
HSC-4 (MH-60S NAS North Island)
HSM-78 (MH-60R NAS North Island)

CVWs can be assigned to different CVNs and different squadrons can be assigned to a CVW. In 2006, CVW-2 had VFA-34, VFA, 137, and VFA-151 under its command and was assigned to the USS Abraham Lincoln.
 
Thanks again for taking time to do this. You mention a few times, ‘…ranked based off grades…’. I have heard/read that (not sure I’m saying this correctly) assignments aren’t necessarily merit based. That there are some top, middle and lower merit assignments, to aircraft and location, made. To a pond, for example, all the top performers in a class picking the same aircraft. Can you speak to this at all?
I think I have an idea of what you are saying. Flight school selection is not entirely merit based. The assignment process takes into account the needs of the service (primary), your performance (secondary), and your preferences (tertiary). Getting your first choice is part timing, part hard work, and part putting it number one. Emphasis on timing and performance.

Pretty much, if you are the number one person selecting that week and there is a spot available for your first choice, you'll get it 99.9% of the time (there are no absolutes in the military). After that, you have what spots are left over for that week and what people's preferences are. I think the merit based thing is all relative. My platform sometimes has to draft people, but I had it #1. I did pretty decent in Primary and I could have selected any platform, but I chose which one I felt was right for me. Jets has the reputation of being of high merit since the syllabus is demanding and you have to be in the top half of your class to get it. Helos get a bad reputation since the Navy needs a lot of slots and you just need to pass Primary to select Helos. So unfortunately, helos has been erroneously assumed to be where all the poor performers go, which is not the case at all. Plenty of stellar pilots have gone to helos.

A lot of top performers usually put jets down since they put in the work to put themselves in a position to select jets. However, that is not always the case. Plenty of top performers try to select other platforms.

On those who don't get their first (or second) choice, talking to my old Primary squadron, it is usually because they had a lofty dream sheet, but didn't have the grades to support their preferences. Some communities will have soft grade requirements (E.g. You just need to pass flight school to get a P-8 spot on paper, but a lot of people want that spot, so you need to do well to be competitive). Some people have the grades, but the needs of the Navy dictate they go somewhere else. I feel for those people, but everyone learns to love what they do and thinks they fly the best platform in the Navy. Sometimes, people just have bad timing. Right now, the Jet pipeline is backed up, so there aren't too many jet slots up for grabs.

Selection is a lot of magic and a lot of competing priorities. To also add to the multiple layers of complexity, your grades are bell-curve based. You are graded on a scale of 20-80. The score is called NSS (Naval Standard Score). The bell curve is based on the last 200 completers in your squadron. A 50 is the median, 20 is the worst, and 80 is the best. One added stressor for students is that you do not know how you are doing until you are done. So even though you can't see it, your NSS changes every week. If you graduate after a bunch of rockstars, your NSS would be lower than if you graduated after people who did okay. This normally doesn't have too much impact, but it could if you are close to a cutoff. So your scores could get you a 50 NSS one week, but the next week it could be a 48 if the last group of completers were solid performers. Again, you can only do your best and you can't control that, but it is a stressor for students nonetheless.
 
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