Navy flight training accident

Got a call from my DS who is a Navy pilot on deployment. This tragedy struck him pretty hard because he was a classmate of LT Ross in flight school at NAS Whiting. First time I ever heard him realize his own mortality. Sometimes it's hard to be a parent. Sending prayers of comfort to those who knew and loved these fine young women who chose to serve. And prayers for all their fellow aviators and their loved ones as well.
 
Some may want to know what happens operationally after the NOK are notified and the news of the accident settles out. In the military, there is an accounting for everything. In this case, an aircraft mishap board is established. It is standard in the training command as well as the fleet. The CO of the squadron, no doubt, has appointed members to the board. This charge, in writing, takes precedence over all other duties.

From Wikipedia (dovetails with my experience on mishap boards):

A United States Navy aircraft mishap board is an ad hoc or permanent panel assembled following an aircraft crash or accident and charged with the investigation of the causes of the incident and making recommendation for prevention of future incidents.[1]

Aircraft mishap boards are typically composed of a minimum of four commissioned officers who were uninvolved in the incident, including a flight surgeon, a pilot rated on the type of aircraft involved in the incident, and at least two additional officers, one of whom is "well-qualified in aircraft operations" and one of whom is "well-qualified in aircraft maintenance". The board conducts investigations by interviewing witnesses to the incident, reviewing readings from the aircraft's surviving digital instruments, examining maintenance records of the aircraft, viewing the incident site, and examining any wreckage created. Foreign military officers seconded to the United States Navy may serve on an aircraft mishap board other than in the position of senior board officer.[2]

While many aircraft mishap boards are organized following a mishap, each U.S. Navy squadron has a standing aircraft mishap board.[3]

As @Capt MJ noted, “There is a compulsion to ensure everything is done right,” as a matter of duty and respect.” This is no less true for those members of a mishap board.
 
Its a very scary thing. As the father of a son who went through the same training and plane (last year) although through the Air Force, i was excited but scared everytime he had a chance to fly. Since we sort of knew when he would fly, we always sent him a text later in the day just to see a reply. Neither the T-6 nor the T-38 are new planes although the T-6 is definitely not as old. These planes go up and down all day and sometimes fly even though they have minor issues that dont impede with the planes ability to fly or land. I cant imagine what the parents are going through but everytime we hear a story like this about kids in UPT, it really hurts and hits home.
 
I never really appreciated the fear of losing a child until I had a kid of my own... and somehow that fear seeps into reasonable situations and unreasonable situations to fear. My classmate recently lost her husband and 9 month old daughter in a plane crash and it really broke me up (she and her son, who is the age of my daughter, were injured but survived). I'm not sure if I would have reacted a strongly I did didn't have a kid, but it talking to my mom about it, apparently she still worries about me.

Kids take risks, and our kids are our kids whether they're 2 1/2 years old like my daughter or 21 years old.

I didn't graduate THAT long ago, and there's a sense of invincibility, having spent four unpleasant years at an academy, going out and conquering the world. And then this happens.

I am sorry for the loss, and the pain their family and friends are feeling. And for Ens. Barrett, for the pain her classmates and other CGA alumni are experiencing.
 
I never really appreciated the fear of losing a child until I had a kid of my own... and somehow that fear seeps into reasonable situations and unreasonable situations to fear. My classmate recently lost her husband and 9 month old daughter in a plane crash and it really broke me up (she and her son, who is the age of my daughter, were injured but survived). I'm not sure if I would have reacted a strongly I did didn't have a kid, but it talking to my mom about it, apparently she still worries about me.

Kids take risks, and our kids are our kids whether they're 2 1/2 years old like my daughter or 21 years old.

I didn't graduate THAT long ago, and there's a sense of invincibility, having spent four unpleasant years at an academy, going out and conquering the world. And then this happens.

I am sorry for the loss, and the pain their family and friends are feeling. And for Ens. Barrett, for the pain her classmates and other CGA alumni are experiencing.
Its not even kids taking risks. 99% of the time they are with a trained and experienced instructor that should mitigate the risk and sometimes its just the plane failing for one reason or another. There was another plane (T-38) that went down during UPT several months ago, mabye before Covid, and it was the student who screwed up. But what was worse is that although the instructor took over at the last moment, he took over too late. That is at least according to the AF report. I think they were doing formation landing which has now been discontinued due to the danger.
 
Its not even kids taking risks. 99% of the time they are with a trained and experienced instructor that should mitigate the risk and sometimes its just the plane failing for one reason or another. There was another plane (T-38) that went down during UPT several months ago, mabye before Covid, and it was the student who screwed up. But what was worse is that although the instructor took over at the last moment, he took over too late. That is at least according to the AF report. I think they were doing formation landing which has now been discontinued due to the danger.

By risk I mean leaving the crib. It's a risk for them to go to daycare, learn to drive a car, go to college, be on a ship, learning to fly a plane. Basically anytime they leave the protective cover of their mother hens (or dads). Obviously is has to happen, but it keeps parents up.
 
I don’t think he was supposed to do that.

For those so inclined, the CGA Alumni Association has set up a memorial fund for ENS Morgan Garrett. http://www.cgaalumni.org/morgangarrett
There is also a gofundme for LT Rhiannon Ross. https://www.gofundme.com/f/rhiannonrossmemorial
My ensign and Morgan were close friends.They both graduated CGA in 2019, and were in VT-2 together. Devastating loss.

As for the discussion regarding RADM Kelly's post across social media naming the deceased ensign...her mother had only been notified 15 minutes prior to those social media posts...:mad:
 
@alaska66 Tried to donate on the Alumni site several times but kept getting an error message. Maybe it'll be fixed tomorrow.
 
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Nice thing about the Alumni Association is they don't have fees, so you're not paying a portion of the donation to a company. I believe they've also asked people to share stories about Morgan, which is really nice because parents only get to see part of what their kids become coming out of an academy. I didn't know Morgan, but I've seen so many nice stories about who she was.
 
Nice thing about the Alumni Association is they don't have fees, so you're not paying a portion of the donation to a company. I believe they've also asked people to share stories about Morgan, which is really nice because parents only get to see part of what their kids become coming out of an academy. I didn't know Morgan, but I've seen so many nice stories about who she was.
Morgan was the life of the party! Big smile, outgoing personality, and funny. When I spoke to her mom a few days after the tragedy, she told me the story about how Morgan once ran a whole 5k backwards just so she could continue to talk to her friends.:)

LT Ross was also a highly regarded IP and the other IPs and SNAs are taking her loss very, very hard. It is an extremely sad time for VT-2 and TW5 as a whole.

I have asked the CGA community to replace their Facebook profile pictures with the patch that @rjb has shared above. In addition, I have suggested at least a symbolic donation of $20.19 (Morgan is Class of 2019) be made to her memorial fund. Her family intends to set up an annual award for a CGA cadet in Morgan's name.
 
The GoFundMe website for the Lt. Rhiannon Ross Memorial Fund posted an update:
Today by Jason McCabe, Beneficiary

Thank you all for the generous donations and outpouring of support. We’ve been able to cover all funeral and travel expenses.

The funeral was held yesterday with Rhiannon’s family, friends, and shipmates in attendance.

She is interred at Barrancas National Cemetery just beyond the departure end of Runways 07L/R at Sherman Field so she will always be under the guard of the aircraft she loved so much.

A bald eagle stood watch over the site so we knew she was there with us.

Thank You all again!
Jason and the Ross Family
 
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