Jimdlt19
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I know quite a few Moms and Dads have already PMd me waiting for this.
So here goes, it is quite a bit of material and I broke it down into phases. I go into everything from preparation starting in 9th grade to school selection, etc.
Feel free to PM me with any questions regarding the process and I will be lurking here for some time since my younger son (Sophomore) is looking at Mechanical Engineering and possibly Space Force ROTC.
Also, just some background, 30 years ago I spent 10-years in the Marine Corps (July 1983-Mar 1994) with a WestPac Carrier Cruise under my belt, and now I am a Firefighter/Paramedic and Flight Nurse who works on the side evacuating patients all over the world. So I have seen the Marines, the Navy, and Nursing up close and personal.
Preparation Phase
My DS came to me in 9th grade with his desire to do something in the medical field. Dr, Dentist, PA, and Nurse were all on the table. After discussion, Dr, Dentist, and PA were immediately off the table. He wanted to go to college NOT school. There is a difference, and he was able to see (through his cousin) the rigors of undergraduate competition for medical school and how hard medical school was itself. In addition, he wanted to get on with his life and do "cool stuff" Nursing like Dad. If you call evacuating private contractors out of Baghdad and Kabul "cool stuff" so be it. So military Nursing was a natural fit. Off to Google he went, and I had a buddy at the firehouse whose daughter was an Army Nurse to get all the info we could. The biggest draw to the Navy was the immense size of the Naval Hospital and Medical Center system. Big hospitals, getting big experience. Not getting stuck in a small battalion aide station, like in the Army. See my other thread for Army vs. Navy Nursing. Now the high school course load, extracurricular activities, etc.
Take Statistics and Anatomy and Physiology (If offered in your high school) in place of Calculus and Physics. You do not need nor are you required to take Calculus and Physics for a Navy Nurse Option Scholarship. However, you do need Statistics and A&P for Nursing. Take all your AP's, Honors, Dual College Enrolment before senior year. Try and take the SAT/ACT's BEFORE senior year. My son took the SAT 3 times, with the last being in August of senior year. SAT's are "super scored" for NROTC. If you can join medical explorers or Medical/Nursing clubs. Get involved with school activities that promote leadership. Get your service hours, my son ended with almost 400, with 150 for just one service trip to the Dominican Republic.
Stats Going into NROTC Nurse Option Application
SAT - 1430 - took it 3 times - Super Scored. Used an SAT "strategy coach".
GPA - 3.85 Unweighted
3 AP's, 3 College Dual Enrolled, Every other course was honors-level over the 4 years, except Religion. DS attends a Private Catholic high school.
DS had NO organized or team sports involvement but was into Cross Fit, Swimming, and SCUBA Certified. Scored almost perfect on the PAT.
DS was a School Ambassador, the most sought-after leadership position in the school. You are the face of the school. Conduct Open Houses, Tours, a big social media presence, etc.
National Honor Society
National Merit Commended Scholar
Math, Science, and Social Studies Honor Societies
Completed almost 400 service hours.
Worked at the local supermarket
Attended Auburn University High School Nursing Student "Resident" Program Summer of 2021
Participated in Nova Southeastern University Medical Explorer program, before Covid
SCUBA, First Aid, and CPR Certified, and Yes there are boxes to check off for these certifications on the NROTC application.
Application and College Selection Phase
I can not stress enough the importance of looking at colleges that have 1) "Direct Admit" as a Freshman Nursing Program and 2) Early Action-Early Decision. ALL of the Navy Nurse Option colleges listed on the NROTC website are Freshman "Direct Admit". Direct Admit alleviates the stress of having to compete for Nursing school later during the Sophomore year with the as close to a 4.0 college GPA you can get. However, Direct Admit also means you need to get in "Early Action", "Early Decision" which is typically a college application submitted by Oct 1st and admit decision by Thanksgiving. I am only talking about public universities NOT the Georgetowns, Yales, and Harvards. If you go early action and are already admitted at your #1 choice school you can use that as part of your NROTC Application as DS did.
My DS had 6 admits (both in state and out of state) prior to Thanksgiving, and not all were Nursing Direct Admits or NROTC Nurse Option Schools.
Acceptances are in, let's get the application together, but first, go onto ROTC Consulting. com LTCOL Kirkland's company and spend the $15 bucks for the essay and interview questions. HUGE help and it's just a 30-page PDF file with tips, that saves us from all the googling. It also has the NETC scoring matrix (approximate).
Our local NTAG representative, a navy CPO recruiter was non-existent and wasn't helpful at all. Your mileage may vary. He had no interest in my DS, made no attempt to assist us, and knew nothing about NROTC - Nurse Option. All he did was process the signed paperwork DS and parents needed to complete and send it off to NETC. He had no interest in looking at the completed application and just told us to transmit it from home when DS was done.
DS notified teachers who were writing the recommendations that an email would come from the Navy with a link to a portal.
DS used 1) School Counselor who was also National Honor Society Proctor 2) Statistics Teacher who was also the Dean and 3) A&P Teacher for Science
On the application itself, there are 4 essay questions, not to exceed 2500 words. However, there are 4 more other sections that require essay-type answers not to exceed 500 words. The application itself is 28 pages. We did NOT check off the box for MSI. To be considered for a Minority-Serving Institution. My DS is Hispanic, Mom is a native Cuban.
Now since we were early action and already admitted at DS #1 Choice, No other college applications went out to the other NROTC choice schools, but we heard from them (more on that later)
Our Plan B was already set. DS is a Florida Bright Futures Scholar with 100% Tuition, and Fees paid and we had Florida Pre-Paid college fund already fully funded at 2005 tuition/books/fees rates for all 4 years and with 2 years Dorm as well. So if NROTC did not pan out we were still OK scholarship-wise.
DS College Choices on the NROTC Application didn't matter to us, Choice #1 - already admitted DS was "ALL IN".
#1 Choice was way out of state and isolated. However, DS liked the idea of staying close to home and being able to work. This is where we started looking at the Navy Nurse Candidate Program, where you can go to ANY college, and during the sophomore year, you apply. Once accepted you raise your hand and take your oath into the Inactive Reserves and Navy Medicine now "owns you". $10K bonus upfront with $1000 per month over 2 years for a $34K total and a 5-year Navy Nurse commitment. One year more than NROTC.
On recommendation from LTCOL Kirkland DS did his interview with the #1 choice school, via Zoom. Some will say to do it with your closest NROTC detachment. Some say go with your #1 choice so the NROTC detachment sees exactly what they are getting.
Timeline
Submitted application electronically and Navy Rep uploaded on his end the forms, between Dec 4-10th.
Recommendations from teachers were done prior to Christmas break.
Interview scheduled with 1st Choice School Dec 27th.
Boarded Jan 4-8th.
Saw a change on NETC Portal to "Decision has not been made" on Jan 14th. Found out through some contacts here on the board that DS was a 2nd Alternate for the Nurse Option Scholarship. Got the CONGRATULATIONS you have been awarded the scholarship on April 6th.
However, DS was already both practically and emotionally invested in another Nursing School with no NROTC but a FULL Ride in both tuition/fees/books/dorm and decided to NOT Accept the scholarship and go the Nurse Candidate Program route.
Post Acceptance
Now the wild ride began and I felt like a sports agent. DS was now an NROTC Nurse Option Scholar and everybody knows it. All colleges get a "61 Report" of the awarded scholars and who is heading to their college. We were contacted by 4 different colleges within 3 days of April 6th all offering room/board/meals if DS would move his scholarship to their school. NONE of which the DS actually applied. Each NROTC department said they could make it happen.
So here goes, it is quite a bit of material and I broke it down into phases. I go into everything from preparation starting in 9th grade to school selection, etc.
Feel free to PM me with any questions regarding the process and I will be lurking here for some time since my younger son (Sophomore) is looking at Mechanical Engineering and possibly Space Force ROTC.
Also, just some background, 30 years ago I spent 10-years in the Marine Corps (July 1983-Mar 1994) with a WestPac Carrier Cruise under my belt, and now I am a Firefighter/Paramedic and Flight Nurse who works on the side evacuating patients all over the world. So I have seen the Marines, the Navy, and Nursing up close and personal.
Preparation Phase
My DS came to me in 9th grade with his desire to do something in the medical field. Dr, Dentist, PA, and Nurse were all on the table. After discussion, Dr, Dentist, and PA were immediately off the table. He wanted to go to college NOT school. There is a difference, and he was able to see (through his cousin) the rigors of undergraduate competition for medical school and how hard medical school was itself. In addition, he wanted to get on with his life and do "cool stuff" Nursing like Dad. If you call evacuating private contractors out of Baghdad and Kabul "cool stuff" so be it. So military Nursing was a natural fit. Off to Google he went, and I had a buddy at the firehouse whose daughter was an Army Nurse to get all the info we could. The biggest draw to the Navy was the immense size of the Naval Hospital and Medical Center system. Big hospitals, getting big experience. Not getting stuck in a small battalion aide station, like in the Army. See my other thread for Army vs. Navy Nursing. Now the high school course load, extracurricular activities, etc.
Take Statistics and Anatomy and Physiology (If offered in your high school) in place of Calculus and Physics. You do not need nor are you required to take Calculus and Physics for a Navy Nurse Option Scholarship. However, you do need Statistics and A&P for Nursing. Take all your AP's, Honors, Dual College Enrolment before senior year. Try and take the SAT/ACT's BEFORE senior year. My son took the SAT 3 times, with the last being in August of senior year. SAT's are "super scored" for NROTC. If you can join medical explorers or Medical/Nursing clubs. Get involved with school activities that promote leadership. Get your service hours, my son ended with almost 400, with 150 for just one service trip to the Dominican Republic.
Stats Going into NROTC Nurse Option Application
SAT - 1430 - took it 3 times - Super Scored. Used an SAT "strategy coach".
GPA - 3.85 Unweighted
3 AP's, 3 College Dual Enrolled, Every other course was honors-level over the 4 years, except Religion. DS attends a Private Catholic high school.
DS had NO organized or team sports involvement but was into Cross Fit, Swimming, and SCUBA Certified. Scored almost perfect on the PAT.
DS was a School Ambassador, the most sought-after leadership position in the school. You are the face of the school. Conduct Open Houses, Tours, a big social media presence, etc.
National Honor Society
National Merit Commended Scholar
Math, Science, and Social Studies Honor Societies
Completed almost 400 service hours.
Worked at the local supermarket
Attended Auburn University High School Nursing Student "Resident" Program Summer of 2021
Participated in Nova Southeastern University Medical Explorer program, before Covid
SCUBA, First Aid, and CPR Certified, and Yes there are boxes to check off for these certifications on the NROTC application.
Application and College Selection Phase
I can not stress enough the importance of looking at colleges that have 1) "Direct Admit" as a Freshman Nursing Program and 2) Early Action-Early Decision. ALL of the Navy Nurse Option colleges listed on the NROTC website are Freshman "Direct Admit". Direct Admit alleviates the stress of having to compete for Nursing school later during the Sophomore year with the as close to a 4.0 college GPA you can get. However, Direct Admit also means you need to get in "Early Action", "Early Decision" which is typically a college application submitted by Oct 1st and admit decision by Thanksgiving. I am only talking about public universities NOT the Georgetowns, Yales, and Harvards. If you go early action and are already admitted at your #1 choice school you can use that as part of your NROTC Application as DS did.
My DS had 6 admits (both in state and out of state) prior to Thanksgiving, and not all were Nursing Direct Admits or NROTC Nurse Option Schools.
Acceptances are in, let's get the application together, but first, go onto ROTC Consulting. com LTCOL Kirkland's company and spend the $15 bucks for the essay and interview questions. HUGE help and it's just a 30-page PDF file with tips, that saves us from all the googling. It also has the NETC scoring matrix (approximate).
Our local NTAG representative, a navy CPO recruiter was non-existent and wasn't helpful at all. Your mileage may vary. He had no interest in my DS, made no attempt to assist us, and knew nothing about NROTC - Nurse Option. All he did was process the signed paperwork DS and parents needed to complete and send it off to NETC. He had no interest in looking at the completed application and just told us to transmit it from home when DS was done.
DS notified teachers who were writing the recommendations that an email would come from the Navy with a link to a portal.
DS used 1) School Counselor who was also National Honor Society Proctor 2) Statistics Teacher who was also the Dean and 3) A&P Teacher for Science
On the application itself, there are 4 essay questions, not to exceed 2500 words. However, there are 4 more other sections that require essay-type answers not to exceed 500 words. The application itself is 28 pages. We did NOT check off the box for MSI. To be considered for a Minority-Serving Institution. My DS is Hispanic, Mom is a native Cuban.
Now since we were early action and already admitted at DS #1 Choice, No other college applications went out to the other NROTC choice schools, but we heard from them (more on that later)
Our Plan B was already set. DS is a Florida Bright Futures Scholar with 100% Tuition, and Fees paid and we had Florida Pre-Paid college fund already fully funded at 2005 tuition/books/fees rates for all 4 years and with 2 years Dorm as well. So if NROTC did not pan out we were still OK scholarship-wise.
DS College Choices on the NROTC Application didn't matter to us, Choice #1 - already admitted DS was "ALL IN".
#1 Choice was way out of state and isolated. However, DS liked the idea of staying close to home and being able to work. This is where we started looking at the Navy Nurse Candidate Program, where you can go to ANY college, and during the sophomore year, you apply. Once accepted you raise your hand and take your oath into the Inactive Reserves and Navy Medicine now "owns you". $10K bonus upfront with $1000 per month over 2 years for a $34K total and a 5-year Navy Nurse commitment. One year more than NROTC.
On recommendation from LTCOL Kirkland DS did his interview with the #1 choice school, via Zoom. Some will say to do it with your closest NROTC detachment. Some say go with your #1 choice so the NROTC detachment sees exactly what they are getting.
Timeline
Submitted application electronically and Navy Rep uploaded on his end the forms, between Dec 4-10th.
Recommendations from teachers were done prior to Christmas break.
Interview scheduled with 1st Choice School Dec 27th.
Boarded Jan 4-8th.
Saw a change on NETC Portal to "Decision has not been made" on Jan 14th. Found out through some contacts here on the board that DS was a 2nd Alternate for the Nurse Option Scholarship. Got the CONGRATULATIONS you have been awarded the scholarship on April 6th.
However, DS was already both practically and emotionally invested in another Nursing School with no NROTC but a FULL Ride in both tuition/fees/books/dorm and decided to NOT Accept the scholarship and go the Nurse Candidate Program route.
Post Acceptance
Now the wild ride began and I felt like a sports agent. DS was now an NROTC Nurse Option Scholar and everybody knows it. All colleges get a "61 Report" of the awarded scholars and who is heading to their college. We were contacted by 4 different colleges within 3 days of April 6th all offering room/board/meals if DS would move his scholarship to their school. NONE of which the DS actually applied. Each NROTC department said they could make it happen.