Navy Sailor Charged for Starting Fire on USS Bonhomme Richard

If true, it shows how just one person can become a huge problem on ships. This is a shame and deeply harmed our Navy and country.
 
justdoit19 said:
He is named now. And apparently ‘hates the Navy’.

Wow


www.militarytimes.com

Sailor accused of starting USS Bonhomme Richard fire identified in warrant

Seaman Apprentice Ryan Sawyer Mays told investigators he was "setup," according to an affidavit.
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The news reports have been pretty thoroughly dissected on my SWO board and it seems reminiscent in many ways of the USS Iowa investigation. Now it could be that there is more hard evidence that has not been disclosed to the media thus far to be sure but they certainly should have more than circumstantial evidence for this to stick.

I'm not saying that he didn't do it but the Dept of the Navy judicial system has not covered itself in glory in recent years and they really need to get it right here.
 
OldRetSWO said:
The news reports have been pretty thoroughly dissected on my SWO board and it seems reminiscent in many ways of the USS Iowa investigation. Now it could be that there is more hard evidence that has not been disclosed to the media thus far to be sure but they certainly should have more than circumstantial evidence for this to stick.

I'm not saying that he didn't do it but the Dept of the Navy judicial system has not covered itself in glory in recent years and they really need to get it right here.
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I hope they prove that he did do it. But the Navy does seem (and I can’t give you any examples right off the top of my head) to have a history of finding a scapegoat to deflect blame away from organizational failures. And this is not unique to the Navy, but is true with other large organizations as well. I am just skeptical about these things until I see the evidence. Please don’t crucify me for what I said, I have a lot of respect for the Navy and all branches of our military.
 
NJROTC-CC said:
I hope they prove that he did do it. But the Navy does seem (and I can’t give you any examples right off the top of my head) to have a history of finding a scapegoat to deflect blame away from organizational failures. And this is not unique to the Navy, but is true with other large organizations as well. I am just skeptical about these things until I see the evidence. Please don’t crucify me for what I said, I have a lot of respect for the Navy and all branches of our military.
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Nothing wrong with what you said. It’s the truth.
 
NJROTC-CC said:
I hope they prove that he did do it. But the Navy does seem (and I can’t give you any examples right off the top of my head) to have a history of finding a scapegoat to deflect blame away from organizational failures. And this is not unique to the Navy, but is true with other large organizations as well. I am just skeptical about these things until I see the evidence. Please don’t crucify me for what I said, I have a lot of respect for the Navy and all branches of our military.
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features.propublica.org

Years of Warnings, Then Death and Disaster: How the Navy Failed Its Sailors

The Pentagon ignored years of warnings before the Navy’s deadliest crashes in decades.
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Article about the 7th fleet. Remember their two collisions and USS Antietam running a ground. I remember when these happened feeling like it also happened to me. I stood watch many nights on a GC. Poor training and over stressed fleets leads to these types of situations.

I would have never felt safe with a poorly trained Helmsman or lookout standing watch. My rack was below the water line like the guys that died. You collided with a ship or hit a mine and that berthing area is filling up FAST.

To many warning bells and after it happens they want to fire the CO, destcom cmd, 7th fleet commander.

Should have been a lot more brass and civilian butts in the hot seat.

/Rant
 
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