Navy Vs. Air Force

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Of course it is. And as for the throat thing? No way. I hear they all lead accappella doo wop groups and have competitions w/ their fellow zoomies.

Trust me. A smokey bear bonnet does not a DI make. Miss Hathaway wore one on the "Beverly Hillbillies!" Allegedly she was an ex-TI. Claimed it was perfect preparation for becoming a bankteller. Scared Milton Drysdale outta his 3 piece suit, too! GO ZOOMIES!:tomcat:
 
Whistle Pig said:
Of course it is. And as for the throat thing? No way. I hear they all lead accappella doo wop groups and have competitions w/ their fellow zoomies.

Trust me. A smokey bear bonnet does not a DI make. Miss Hathaway wore one on the "Beverly Hillbillies!" Allegedly she was an ex-TI. Claimed it was perfect preparation for becoming a bankteller. Scared Milton Drysdale outta his 3 piece suit, too! GO ZOOMIES!:tomcat:
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after talking to several midshipmen, zoomies, and WP cadets, its interesting to find out that USAFA has the most mentally stressful and physically challenging first year -- agreed upon by all three groups!

and yet, you still try to reduce USAFA down to some sort of country club run by half-witted TI's. a little lacking in the factual area?
 
Two of those who have done neither, making fun of those who have. What is wrong with this picture?
 
after talking to several midshipmen, zoomies, and WP cadets, its interesting to find out that USAFA has the most mentally stressful and physically challenging first year -- agreed upon by all three groups!
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I would like to know how that is even possible. None have experienced either's plebe year. Furthermore, I have even a harder time believing that there was a consensus among all three groups that one particular was harder. Very speculative on your quoted post.
 
jadler03 said:
I would like to know how that is even possible. None have experienced either's plebe year. Furthermore, I have even a harder time believing that there was a consensus among all three groups that one particular was harder. Very speculative on your quoted post.
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from the way i understand it, the WP cadets and midshipmen went on exchanges to USAFA and observed the first year experienced, then compared it to their own.

the consensus was that militarily speaking USAFA first year is harder, and the other three years were easier (in the sense of liberties given, number of formations a week, etc.)

however; USAFA was also agreed to have the most demanding academic curriculum among the three. but that shouldn't be a surprise.
 
LineInTheSand said:
That's weird, because I've heard Kelly McGillis doesn't have a heart for guys at all.
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Win! All that acting in Top Gun was indeed "acting".

This is one of the most bizarre threads to follow -- first we have Bullet inexplicably reviving it after a month ... perhaps to set up endoftheline? or to see who would get riled up?
Endoftheline has already explored AF vs Navy on a prior thread which did not end well. Not sure why this is being revived or why his (her?) unmannerly attitude and comments are tolerated.

Interesting that he(she) claims to be in high school but has intimate knowledge of all things AF, Navy and Army. Quite a chip on that shoulder, kiddo.
It's poor form for a high school student to get into a pissing contest comparing which academy is 'toughest'. Take a deep breath and go write your English paper or do some pre-calc; your homework is calling.
 
Just_A_Mom said:
Win! All that acting in Top Gun was indeed "acting".

This is one of the most bizarre threads to follow -- first we have Bullet inexplicably reviving it after a month ... perhaps to set up endoftheline? or to see who would get riled up?
Endoftheline has already explored AF vs Navy on a prior thread which did not end well. Not sure why this is being revived or why his (her?) unmannerly attitude and comments are tolerated.

Interesting that he(she) claims to be in high school but has intimate knowledge of all things AF, Navy and Army. Quite a chip on that shoulder, kiddo.
It's poor form for a high school student to get into a pissing contest comparing which academy is 'toughest'. Take a deep breath and go write your English paper or do some pre-calc; your homework is calling.
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lol i never claimed to be in high school. that's the great thing about the internet. i COULD be in high school, or i could be in college, or jr. high, or a dropout, or active duty, or from a foreign country. i could be a male, or i could be a female. you'll never know for sure.


what matters though, is that i'm whatever SA forums needs me to be....

I am the dark knight.
 
No way college. One must score at least 200/200 on the SATs to get in. No way college. Maybe a trade school. In any case, no threat for any of the SAs ... well, maybe USAFA :wink:
 
endoftheline said:
i COULD be in .........................jr high...............................I am the dark knight.
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end of the line said:
i already have my PPL
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Age 17 minimum.

Are you saying that all your questions about SA vs ROTC and AFA vs USNA were just frivilous inquiries?

Knights were honest.

My guess. Parent with minimal AF ties living vicariously through his son who wants to land on aircraft carriers. Probably also a forum member as a parent.
 
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Age 17 minimum.

Are you saying that all your questions about SA vs ROTC and AFA vs USNA were just frivilous inquiries?

Knights were honest.

My guess. Parent with minimal AF ties living vicariously through his son who wants to land on aircraft carriers. Probably also a forum member as a parent.
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Alright, you got me on the first one (fair and square)

define frivolous.

prove it

the last one just made me laugh.
 
Not sure who put you up to this EOTL but your time is running out.
Naval Academy TOS:
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If provided information is found or considered to be less than accurate, we will either mark the information as questionable or inaccurate, or else edit the post accordingly. This is all being done with the desire to ensure that applicants and parents receive only the best information possible. The Moderators of this forum are particularly well-qualified to perform this task, and have been specifically selected for that ability.
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These are the TOS for this forum. EOTL has violated the TOS at length. Time for some enforcement.

With this statement:
lol i never claimed to be in high school. that's the great thing about the internet. i COULD be in high school, or i could be in college, or jr. high, or a dropout, or active duty, or from a foreign country. i could be a male, or i could be a female. you'll never know for sure.
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he admits to being a troll.

Time to shut down the nonsense and falsehoods he is spreading.

(PS: I do admit that WP's posts made me giggle - hehe)
 
Just_A_Mom said:
Not sure who put you up to this EOTL but your time is running out.
Naval Academy TOS:

These are the TOS for this forum. EOTL has violated the TOS at length. Time for some enforcement.

With this statement:
he admits to being a troll.

Time to shut down the nonsense and falsehoods he is spreading.

(PS: I do admit that WP's posts made me giggle - hehe)
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JustAMom for the win. you guys are way too easy to troll haha. but hey, no harm done, right? thanks for the laughs, EOTL out. peace.
 
i like how no one throws in the usmma into the difficulty debate, from what i heard, its the hardest

and want the best chances of going to pilot training? go to KP :thumb:
 
endoftheline said:
JustAMom for the win. you guys are way too easy to troll haha. but hey, no harm done, right? thanks for the laughs, EOTL out. peace.
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I usually do. :wink: Actually there is harm done. This forum is supposed to be about accuracy and truth - you have provided none to little. I would hate to see impressionable young kids and their parents fall for some of your rhetoric.
Now run along - go have a drink (only if you are over 21, which I suspect you are) with your accessory in crime and stop making stuff up just to get folks cranked up just to watch the mean old moderators start picking on them.
 
Just_A_Mom said:
Now run along - go have a drink (only if you are over 21, which I suspect you are) with your accessory in crime and stop making stuff up just to get folks cranked up just to watch the mean old moderators start picking on them.
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JAM,

Seeing as the only other person you mention in your post 2 previous to this is me, am I to assume I am that "accessory to crime"?

Excuse me. What "crime" have I committed? You question why I revived a thread over a month old. Fair enough. Please show me where in the TOS there is a time limit on posting a reply. You also questioned my motives for posting, suggesting an ulterior motive on my part outside of recommending to the original poster to ask his question on a forum slightly less biased towards the Navy than the USNA site. If anyone here is breaking the TOS, it is you for your personal attack on me!

Now, you've also attacked EOTL for telling "mis-truths" on this thread, saying that it only hurts the potential candidates who are coming here seeking knowledge, and that his rude demeanor takes away from the value. I concur.

Now, are you going to go back and chastise everyone else who came on this thread before I posted and gave their opinions on why the Navy was so much better? Something NOT based on fact, and the ultimate reason I responded with a request to continue asking on other forums, and gave my OPINION as well?

And if you must know, the reason I revived the thread after a month was quite frankly I hadn't seen it before, and when doing a search on these forums to link to for another candidate's question on the differences between the services, I stumbled on it. Had so many opinions where the FACTS were wrong, I felt compelled to reply. Funny, that is the same reason YOU'VE stated above: the need to stop those who are posting falsehoods in their tracks.

Well, here is another falsehood I will stop in its tracks: Don't you ever accuse me of a crime again based on your speculation of my motives. This ain't NCIS, and you ain't Mark Harmon. I feel personally offended, and may just take my feelings on your personal attacks to the mean old moderators.
 
Again, "fact" posted on your post when you revived the thread:
Bullet said:
Of course, AF landings just aren't as "cool"; we tend to worry more about the mission (which, personally, I think is the vastly more "cooler" aspect of flying fighters), and take the fact that we have to land after wards pretty low on our mission priority for that day's work.
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My unanswered question from way back on thread #25:
Not quite following you here. Are you saying that Navy pilots are not as professional and that the quality of their airwork is not up to that of the AF?
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You do know that were the shoe on the other foot, there are those who, not waiting an explanation, would become 'righteously indignant' over a post such as this?
 
I'd hate to say I'm coming to the AF's aid, but...

I think everyone here needs to cool their jets.

I think what Bullet was getting at is not a question of Navy vs. AF: Who accomplishes the mission better? But more comes down to a preparation thing.

If you break it down to percentages of time spent rehearsing and preparing for a mission (prep for combat) to include briefing of the mission itself, there is no one that could argue with the fact that (percentage-wise) the Air Force spends more time briefing and rehearsing for the mission itself, as the other aspects of the flight are relatively simple given the airframes and the fact that their airfield is not yawing, pitching, and rolling to a completely different cadence that that of the aircraft. Due to the fact of carrier aviation, more time and careful consideration must be given to the inherent dangers (significantly so) of launching and recovering aboard a ship. Therefore more time is required to rehearse and brief for these critical steps of the mission.

However, if you broke it down to time on station (without refueling), or number of sorties accomplished, the Navy could easily have the edge. Given that they can park their airfield off the coast of most any hot spot. Take a look at the Falklands War and all the Harrier sorties they ran there.

But in retrospect, what do I know. I'm just a dumb grunt. And we all know that everything else in the military supports the Infantrymen. :wink:
 
Malachy Marine said:
I think what Bullet was getting at is not a question of Navy vs. AF: Who accomplishes the mission better? But more comes down to a preparation thing.
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The better the preparation the greater the accomplishment.

I think to suggest that anyone launches on any mission with less than total preparation in all facets is a very serious allegation.
 
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