New ROTC Changes the past year or two (all branches)?

Vista123

Vista123

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(mom of USNA 2017 and AROTC Grad out of WashU 2018)

Every year I volunteer at the high school's parent-to-parent forum and man the table called "Service Academies and ROTC Scholarships) I talked to the PMS of U of I and got the latest Army Changes -and did some looking online for more updates....but have a few additional questions regarding National scholarship/changes:

1.) For any of the branches is there a camp between senior yr of high school and freshman year of college?
2.)The PMS I talked to said that the Army did not require an instate choice but do the other branches?
3.) is there anything that has changed the past year or two that I should be aware of?

I cant say enough about how SAF helped me to help my sons get through the process!
 
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Unless this has changed, Army actually does require a school to be in the state, but it can be private. So Army does not require and instate tuition option.

I clarify only because when my daughter applied, it too stated she didn’t need an “in state tuition” option, but when going to submit, it said she needed a school in her state of residence. She added a private school and it was accepted. Funny thing was she added it as her last choice, she was given three choices and ended up with that “I don’t wanna go there” option she had to list! It has ended up being a great fit.

Maybe someone doing the Army app this year didn’t need to, if that is the case, please correct me.
 
I talked to the Assistant Professor of Military Science & Scholarships and Enrollment Officer/Army ROTC Department at
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign a few wks ago and asked that question specifically and he said "no an instate school was not required"
Ugh I hate to go to this meeting tonight with bad intel! Can anyone else jump in here
 
Vista123 said:
I talked to the Assistant Professor of Military Science & Scholarships and Enrollment Officer/Army ROTC Department at
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign a few wks ago and asked that question specifically and he said "no an instate school was not required"
Ugh I hate to go to this meeting tonight with bad intel! Can anyone else jump in here
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My DD was awarded a 4 year AROTC scholarship in October. In her top 3, she listed 1 private school and 2 public schools. She would be an OOS student (and thus paid OOS tuition) at both the 2 public schools.

The app allowed her to list NO in-state schools within her top 3. This was contrary to what I thought the rules were (ie 1 of the top 3 must be an in-state public school).

When she got the award, Cadet Command gave her a choice of the top 3 schools on her list and none of them were an in-state public option.

So based on my DD’s experience, the UIUC ROO is correct- an in-state school was not required.
 
@GoCubbies were any of her schools in state? I ask because my DD listed hers 4th, not top 3. But it would not let her submit without adding it as her last choice. That in state school was a private school, (so not in state tuition) - but in her state of residence. To be clear she had zero schools with in state tuition. All schools offered were therefore private or OOS.

Just for my own knowledge, I am curious if she was able to submit without any schools in her state of residence, public or private?
 
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@GoCubbies were any of her schools in state? I ask because my DD listed hers 4th, not top 3. But it would not let her submit without adding it as her last choice. That in state school was a private school, (so not in state tuition) - but in her state of residence. To be clear she had zero schools with in state tuition. All schools offered were therefore private or OOS.

Just for my own knowledge, I am curious if she was able to submit without any schools in her state of residence, public or private?
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Yes. She had a private school in our state as #4. UIUC (our in-state flagship) was somewhere between 5-7.

I initially thought she had to list an in-state public as her top 3. I told her to try to submit the app with her “true” rankings (basically meant no in-state public in top 3) and the portal allowed her to do that to my surprise.
 
My daughter tried to submit with no schools in state. It would not let her submit. She added a private school and it allowed her to, so again no instate tuition option at all which is exactly what vista123 had been told. I was just curious if your daughter was able to with none, so that definitely answered my question, thank you! So it is possible that a school in the state of residency might be required. It would be interesting to know if someone was able to submit without any?
 
Vista123 said:
learningNavymom said:
1) NROTC now has a three-week summer program. There is more info in this thread: https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/new-student-indoctrination-summer-2019.65352/

2) NROTC does require that an in-state choice be among the five institutions listed on the application.
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Exactly what I was looking for THANKS
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Furthermore, the in-state school must be in your top 3 of the five total choices you make. Also they technically say that it needs to be a school where you qualify for in-state tuition rates, so in certain select circumstances that may be a school geographically located outside your state (at least for the Marine option).
 
Dckc88 said:
My daughter tried to submit with no schools in state. It would not let her submit. She added a private school and it allowed her to, so again no instate tuition option at all which is exactly what vista123 had been told. I was just curious if your daughter was able to with none, so that definitely answered my question, thank you! So it is possible that a school in the state of residency might be required. It would be interesting to know if someone was able to submit without any?
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You are correct. I had my DD show me her AROTC portal yesterday.

In the school of intent tab, it does say 1 of the 7 schools must be from your state of residence. It doesn’t specify public or private or eligibility for in-state tuition.

Odd rule. To me, the reason why a payor would want to require an in-state rule is for reduced tuition. The NROTC scholarship does it this way.

That rule doesn’t help costs for the Army for a kid from MD going to Johns Hopkins compared to a kid from KY. The Army is still on the hook for the $50k+ tuition.
 
Freedom1776 said:
Furthermore, the in-state school must be in your top 3 of the five total choices you make. Also they technically say that it needs to be a school where you qualify for in-state tuition rates, so in certain select circumstances that may be a school geographically located outside your state (at least for the Marine option).
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when my DS applied last year, the regional guy stoppedhis ap until a state school was in the top 3...
 
jaglvr said:
Freedom1776 said:
Furthermore, the in-state school must be in your top 3 of the five total choices you make. Also they technically say that it needs to be a school where you qualify for in-state tuition rates, so in certain select circumstances that may be a school geographically located outside your state (at least for the Marine option).
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when my DS applied last year, the regional guy stoppedhis ap until a state school was in the top 3...
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That is probably because for most people a school where they would qualify for in state tuition would have to be in the state they live in. There are some circumstances (like being awarded a version amount in other scholarships) that can make out of state schools drop to in state rates
 
@GoCubbies I agree with you a hundred percent on this! Which is why we were confused by it as well. In fact the two public universities, and even the out of state private school were 14k-20k cheaper than the private school in our state. She ended up chosing that in state private option which had not even been on her radar if it had not been for that rule. She was applying for a nursing scholarship and it was the only program in our state. If she had not been going for nursing, she would have gladly added our local state university on her application. However, the school has been great and she has loved her experience. Her cadre supported her when she requested to switch from a nursing scholarship to a line scholarship, so who know she if she would have had the same support somewhere else? I can’t believe she only has one more year after this one, it has gone so quickly.
 
Vista123 said:
Long time user, old time poster.
(mom of USNA 2017 and AROTC Grad out of WashU 2018)

Every year I volunteer at the high school's parent-to-parent forum and man the table called "Service Academies and ROTC Scholarships) I talked to the PMS of U of I and got the latest Army Changes -and did some looking online for more updates....but have a few additional questions regarding National scholarship/changes:

1.) For any of the branches is there a camp between senior yr of high school and freshman year of college?
2.)The PMS I talked to said that the Army did not require an instate choice but do the other branches?
3.) is there anything that has changed the past year or two that I should be aware of?

I cant say enough about how SAF helped me to help my sons get through the process!
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Vista123 - I have a question for you about a previous post, I am new here and not sure how to message you...
 
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