Do we know if any College Program MIDN made it to NSI? If not that could be interesting come fall
Not necessarily, first increment OCS grads could staff NSI 2.
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There reportedly was at-least one college programmer *not awarded a scholarship but very hopeful to earn one* that attended NSI Session 1 this year. I'm not sure which schools opted to send college programmers and which did not, or why. Given the numbers, clearly most schools did not send college programmers and not many at-all, to this program. SMC's did not send students to NSI as they will cover the same as part of their programs.
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I thought known college programmers were also required to attend. I didn't think that decision was left up to the colleges.
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Thanks @kinnem - I'm curious what the breakdown is in how many programmers and scholarship recipients attended/ are attending NSI. I guess it's a loaded question on asking how many people accepted the NROTC scholarships and, how many progammers are starting as transfers or incoming /rising freshman.
For session 1 of NSI, 396 graduated. I think around 445 started. For sesson 2 if it's similar, that means about 900 or so midshipman candidates attended NSI in total (between the 2 sessions - give or take). I was thinking that nationally the number of programmers would be higher if we take 900-accepted scholarships = college programmers. But I live and learn - thanks again for the data
For session 1 of NSI, 396 graduated. I think around 445 started. For sesson 2 if it's similar, that means about 900 or so midshipman candidates attended NSI in total (between the 2 sessions - give or take). I was thinking that nationally the number of programmers would be higher if we take 900-accepted scholarships = college programmers. But I live and learn - thanks again for the data
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Thanks @kinnem - I'm curious what the breakdown is in how many programmers and scholarship recipients attended/ are attending NSI. I guess it's a loaded question on asking how many people accepted the NROTC scholarships and, how many progammers are starting as transfers or incoming /rising freshman.
For session 1 of NSI, 396 graduated. I think around 445 started. For sesson 2 if it's similar, that means about 900 or so midshipman candidates attended NSI in total (between the 2 sessions - give or take). I was thinking that nationally the number of programmers would be higher if we take 900-accepted scholarships = college programmers. But I live and learn - thanks again for the data
At the San Diego consortium, the letter of acceptance to DS, a college programmer, indicated that they would be invited to NSI subject to funding. That was followed within the hour with another email asking them to make a decision if they wanted to go and provide medical info in a period of a couple of days. (Which seems like a great preview of military life)
There were around half a dozen college programmers on copy.
It's day 8, We've gotten one arrival call, no emergency calls, seen one bald-headed photo, and saw exchange charges. So he must be alive.
For the safety of the candidates only.@BarryD Gee, they've just been through 6 weeks of difficult training themselves and probably lost 20 pounds doing it. I say give 'em a break before they need to get back to school in another 6 weeks. Besides, they'll be so gung ho they will probably eat the new kids alive.
Well at least it's better than what I thought; I was under the impression that no College Programmers got to NSI due to budgetary constraints.
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Same! And the exchange charge was 1.19 lol
Our DS attended NSI 1 and is currently a college programmer. It was made clear from the beginning (from his unit) if you completed your paperwork on time, I think May 1, you would be attending NSI.For the safety of the candidates only.@BarryD Gee, they've just been through 6 weeks of difficult training themselves and probably lost 20 pounds doing it. I say give 'em a break before they need to get back to school in another 6 weeks. Besides, they'll be so gung ho they will probably eat the new kids alive.
Well at least it's better than what I thought; I was under the impression that no College Programmers got to NSI due to budgetary constraints.
I’m thankful he was able to attend and afforded this valuable training and it sealed his commitment to serving his country. They were all treated the same at NSI no matter scholarship or not.
He was not the only programmer from his unit to attend. There were at least 3 in his platoon who were programmers (from various schools) during NSI.
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Yes, but it will only be 1 summer since one doesn't get advanced standing until late summer their rising junior year. At least that's how it's worked in the past. Things can always change.
EDIT: This means they get to do their one required training. For Navy Options that's First Class Cruise and for Marine Options it's OCS.
EDIT: This means they get to do their one required training. For Navy Options that's First Class Cruise and for Marine Options it's OCS.
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I just got home from session 2 last night and over all I would say it was a good experience and it wasn’t that difficult. Moments were over the top but ultimately it was not bad. The only thing that was a noticeable issue is that the communication between DIs RDCs and MIs could have been way better. Conflicting information was constantly being thrown at us. I would say that NSI is definitely a good thing for incoming freshmen and will be even more effective once kinks are worked out. Another suggestion I would have would to be a little more selective of what MIs get to go because some of them had no understanding of where the line was.
Son just got back from NSI 2. I think it was a useful experience for him - but in an unexpected way. Apparently, he had been having some doubts for a while. Well, he cam back from NSI convinced that he was absolutely not a good fit for the Marine Corps.
I have been helping with this process for a long time - so - at least at first - this pending change of plans hit me like a ton of bricks. But, I am coming to terms with it. It is his life and I would hate to see him channeled down a path that would make him miserable. Luckily, we can afford to send him to his college even without the scholarship.
I do wonder if NSI will have the impact of increasing early attrition out of NROTC? Maybe that is the point?
I have been helping with this process for a long time - so - at least at first - this pending change of plans hit me like a ton of bricks. But, I am coming to terms with it. It is his life and I would hate to see him channeled down a path that would make him miserable. Luckily, we can afford to send him to his college even without the scholarship.
I do wonder if NSI will have the impact of increasing early attrition out of NROTC? Maybe that is the point?
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The attrition rate I've seen at NSI is much lower than what I've seen in past, unit run, indocs. I don't think the point is to increase attrition. They do mean to make it tough enough that folks get a good look at what they're getting into. Some folks, like your son, decide it's not for them.
First, if he's not entirely certain, the first year of NROTC is on them so he could still give it a "try". Did he feel like he wasn't a good fit for just the Marine Corps or military life in general? If he thinks he might want to do the Navy Option it is possible to apply to become a Navy Option but it will take some time and he would have to participate as a Marine Option for some period of time. Then there is always AROTC and AFROTC.
If it's the military life in general that doesn't agree with him, then it's just as well he found out now. No harm, no foul. He is to be commended for considering it.
Did he say why the Corps wasn't for him? Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss anything further.
I have not seen any attrition rates for NSI 2, but just wanted to say that my DS went to session 1 and liked it. He thought is was relatively easy and said he had fun! Perhaps because session 2 candidates knew a bit what to expect they were more prepared mentally and so it didn’t seem as bad.
Not sure the exact rates for session two but alpha company had about 150 people in it and lost 8 by the end. Only 2 were voluntary and 6 were medical. Not sure about the other companies though
NSI2 approximately 484 started and approximately 461 completed.