Newbie question about prep schools

Discussion in 'Service Academy Preparatory Schools' started by Buckeyefan, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. Buckeyefan

    Buckeyefan New Member

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    I am new here and have lots of questions about the prep schools (SAPS). Here is my situation: my son is a junior in high school. After seeing him put in little effort in school and doing poorly (despite us spending lots of money on tutors and organization coaches) for his 9th and 10th grade years and also due to some attitude problems at home, we made the tough decision to send our son to a military high school this year. This was against my son's wishes and he went unwillingly. Fast forward to today- two months later and he is doing great. His grades are fantastic and he is starting to get involved, and according to his TAC he is following the rules and progressing that way as well (really developing the whole man!). He has also made friends and generally I think he is happy, even though he would NEVER admit it to us at this point. I anticipate he will stay for his senior year as well (hoping it is by his choice). Anyway, this has all got me thinking about college. I am very interested in having him go to a Senior Military College (SMC)but also want to have some other options as well, so that is why I am here on this forum. Can you all tell me a little bit about the SAPS? Are they only for kids that intend to go into a service academy? If my son, for whatever reason, doesn't get into or go to a SMC could he start at a SAPS and after two years transfer to either a SMC or a regular college? Is it kind of like a community college in that way? And do SAPS have the same military structure as SMC and SA? Like PT and structured days and required study halls? Having seen what this environment is doing for my son in HS, I really believe it would be best for him to go to a college (even if just for a couple years) that helps him be self disciplined and helps him to manage his time. Thanks in advance!
     
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  3. RoyOrbison

    RoyOrbison NWP '17, USAFA '22

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    Buckeyefan, before I try and shed some light on your question about the prep schools, it is absolutely necessary your son makes his own life decisions in the service academy process. If he doesn't want to be an officer in the United States military, then there is no point forcing him to attend the academies or prep school. However, should your son willingly choose to serve, here's some information. There are three types of prep schools. 1. The academy sanctioned prep schools. For example USAFAPS, NAPS etc. Typically these are used to prepare athletes who may not be academically qualified for the academies, but an extra year will help. The next two can be attended as either a free agent or as a foundation scholar (Falcon foundation, Naval Academy foundation etc) 2. Civilian prep schools. These schools prepare you mentally, academically and physically for the academies, but are not associated with the military. They do not do drill or wear any sort of military dress. Example is Northwestern Prep in California (I currently attend here)
    3. Military Prep schools. Associated with a variety of programs, some use ROTC while other are run by retired military. Drill and military dress is utilized and the academy lifestyle is instilled. Hope this helps and good luck! If you have any questions about NWP or the foundation scholarships I am more than willing to answer them!
     
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    Jynx! How are you liking NWP? Which state/district do you hail from? Crestline is such a tiny gem here in California, my favorite local place to camp.
     
  5. Billberna

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    Hi, Buckeyefan. I can answer some of your question. You already got some good answers. The SAPS are associated with the service academies, but you cannot apply to them directly. You are only referred to them by the respective service academy if, after applying, the service academy admissions office determines that your son/daughter would benefit from them for one year before entering the service academy. Succeeding in a SAPS really boosts your chances of gaining an appointment in the following year - but of course, as Roy said above - ONLY if he wants to serve as a military officer.

    Also, don't forget about military junior colleges. Two that come to mind are Marion Military Institute, in Marion, Alabama and New Mexico Military Institute in Roswell, NM. You can complete an associates degree at either of those colleges and then transfer your credits to a four year university. Two college years in a military setting might be just what your son needs to mature some more and be ready to take on any other type of college from that point on. Best of luck as you decide.
     
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    USMAPS - United States Military Academy Prep School is for applicants to USMA that do not qualify for admission academically, but are desirable candidates otherwise. The majority of these slots go to enlisted soldiers and recruited athletes, but do include others especially if they are from an underrepresented category.

    If your son is not set on a military career (or even if he is), another venue to make up for a rough start in high school is to consider boarding school for a PG year. If you can afford the tuition or get enough financial aid, they provide excellent preparation for college. Many people have heard of the most exclusive ones like Exeter and Andover, but there are dozens of others that are excellent.
     
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    Thanks everyone and that helps a lot. So I think a Military junior college may be what my son needs if he doesn't go straight to a senior military college or regular college. He is not interested in serving and we don't need the SA for financial assistance as we plan on paying for college. So based on the info looks like junior military college that he could transfer credits to is what I am looking into. I just want something with a military environment and structure to help him with self discipline but don't want the required service afterward. Thanks!
     
  8. RoyOrbison

    RoyOrbison NWP '17, USAFA '22

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    Loving it! Minnesota District 2. The best prep school!
     
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    Good to hear that you are loving it! I bet it's gonna be hard to head home after a gorgeous Autumn in SoCal. Haha
     
  10. AuxNoob

    AuxNoob CGA Admissions Partner 5-Year Member

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    The Coast Guard Academy uses three SAP schools. One is NAPS, and is only available through the military. They also use Georgia Military College and Marion Military Institute. My son was a sponsored prep to MMI. The school is well run, and the curriculum follows that of the service academies. There were several "self-preps" at MMI who paid their own way in hopes of getting an appointment. They tend to do well from MMI. I can't speak to GMC from personal experience, but the cadets who went on the CGA did well. That said, these are colleges, and the students can get into trouble they might not in a high school level military academy. Check out their websites for details on their programs.
     
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    I realize this is an old thread, but have a question regarding NAPS. Can one apply to the NAPS or is the NAPS only for the service academies to refer cadet candidates to?

    Thanks.
     
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    AuxNoob CGA Admissions Partner 5-Year Member

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    My understanding is that NAPS is for Navy and Coast Guard Cadet Candidates referred from the respective service academy. You cannot apply to "self-prep" at NAPS. If I am wrong, I hope someone will correct me.
     
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    To attend NAPS, one must apply to USNA. Should USNA determine that the candidate requires further academic development — but is otherwise a highly desirable candidate with strong officer potential — then he/she may be offered a spot at NAPS.
     
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    OP, what military school does/did your son attend? I'm looking into how military structure affects learning. It seems that most military schools really do, as you said, "develop the whole person." A shame that military charter schools aren't widespread yet, seeing as many children who might benefit from attending can't due to financial reasons.
     
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    My son currently attends NAPs and was assigned there by the Coast Guard Academy for a year of prep school. The Coast Guard does not have a prep school so they send their CGAS (prep program) kids to three different schools. NAPs has 19 coasties there this year. The majority of kids at NAPs are Naval Academy prepsters. You can not apply to NAPs. It’s a direct appointment from either Naval Academy or Coast Guard and you are notified during admissions process if this will be an option for you.
     
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    Or apply to USCGA and be offered a spot at NAPS through the scholars program.
     
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    A few ???. My son just received a conditional appt to CGAS and i’m wondering the following since your son is already half way through.
    When they do the 3 weeks in the summer, how long is the break typically after the summer program and the official start of the school year?

    What has been the hardest part for your son at NAPS so far?

    What sport is any does he play?

    Did you visit your son? How many times? How does that work? If he is an athlete, did you go to games and can you take them out to dinner or is it mandatory that they returnright to NAPs when a game is over? I’m trying to understand ‘how military’ or how lenient the ‘leave’ policy is. While I suspect one can’t leave any weekend, what if you have an important winter weekend that was planned?