No Nomination

[Bacardi]

Wondering what the chances are for an extremely qualified candidate who was no nomination sources at all. I decided to apply too late in the application process for a congressional nomination and I couldn't get the DD 214 from my parents for a presidential nomination. After a phone call with the nominations office, I was urged to finish my application as there was a chance for nomination from the national pool. What does this entail?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Kierkegaard]

Did you apply for a Vice Presidential? If so it's possible, but a long shot.

 

[Bacardi]

Did you apply for a Vice Presidential? If so it's possible, but a long shot.

Yup, when would VP nominations go out?

 

[Kierkegaard]

They dont "go out" like congressional nominations. USNA admissions decides who gets it, and it's part of their complicated nomination charge puzzle. Keep in mind though only there can only be 5 midshipmen who recieved the VP nomination at one time, which works out to about 1-2 people getting in with it every year.

 

[THParent]

Without a nomination, you have a 0% chance.
With that said, a VP nomination or one from the USNA Superintendent is your only hope.

I will just ask you what your Candidate Information System ("portal") application status reads right now.

Before my DS received his nomination, his application status read; "Complete Pending Review".
If yours reads that way, then you're not in - but you're not out - either!
The status will change after they review your application.
When it changes (and it will change), it will either be good or bad.

A good status change would read "Conditional Offer of Appointment LOA" with the condition(s) listed next to "Required Actions"
(or even better, "Fully Qualified Offer of Appointment").
A bad status change (at this point, past the application deadline) would read "Disqualified" or "Incomplete".

 

[Bacardi]

Without a nomination, you have a 0% chance.
With that said, a VP nomination or one from the USNA Superintendent is your only hope.

I will just ask you what your Candidate Information System ("portal") application status reads right now.

Before my DS received his nomination, his application status read; "Complete Pending Review".
If yours reads that way, then you're not in - but you're not out - either!
The status will change after they review your application.
When it changes (and it will change), it will either be good or bad.

A good status change would read "Conditional Offer of Appointment LOA" with the condition(s) listed next to "Required Actions"
(or even better, "Fully Qualified Offer of Appointment").
A bad status change (at this point, past the application deadline) would read "Disqualified" or "Incomplete".

Still stuck on Complete Pending Review with no required actions or instructions... I've also been medically qualified for a while now. I guess it's just a waiting game! Thanks!

 

[THParent]

If you read the appointment thread, you'll notice that the very first one reported was a "Supe's" nomination.

1) Hollywood / DD / No LOA / 14-Sep-17 / Accepted / NY / USNA Superintendent's / Direct Appointment

Supe's nominations are almost as rare as a unicorn, but clearly almost, in this gal's case!
Then there is the "National Pool" which is harder to figure out than just about anything.
No one knows how that voodoo works, but candidates can get nominations that way.

 

[kinnem]

@Bacardi Your chances are very slim but not zero. Hopefully a VP nom comes through for you.

 

[TomB]

I'm in the same boat, either NAPS, superintendent nomination, or vice presidential nomination in order for me to attend USNA. However, I have a nomination to USAFA and am waiting to hear back (I want to be a pilot, specifically to fly MV-22 Ospreys which is only in the USAF or USMC). Best of luck to you!

 

[Old Navy BGO]

Long shot at best..there are plenty of "extremely qualified" candidates that have the interest, motivation and self-discipline to apply for nominations on time.

This is not intended to be a criticism of OP, but more advice for the next group of applicants that are probably starting to follow. I suspect many candidates are wondering why they worked so hard to get their application in last summer and are still CPR in mid-March. I know there have been several threads here talking about timing of the application, and there are plenty of successful candidates that get in just under the wire. However, in my opinion, the candidate that shows the discipline and initiative in completing the application in a timely manner will have a advantage. This is not to suggest that you need to be the first to submit their application, or that you should sacrifice quality for speed in submission, but if you are truly committed, plan ahead, identify the deadlines, and complete well in advance !

 

[USMA 1994]

If you want honest feedback, here it is. You have very little chance of gaining an appointment this year and you should be focusing on what your other plans are. It appears that a SA was Plan B from the beginning and hopefully you have some other options.

With that said, if you really want to attend a service academy, now is the time to start looking at the process for the class of 2023. The process may be more challenging as you are away from home and will need support to complete the MOC nomination packets.