Discussion in 'Air Force Academy - USAFA' started by milholen, Dec 6, 2017.
I was nominated on November 20th and I️t has not been updated to my USMA file.
Anyone know anything about South Carolina's nominations? Thank you.
Our state seems to be moving at the pace of a turtle through peanut butter. Submissions to MoCs due October 1. Interviews in October for House member, first week of November for Senator 2 and first week of December for Senator 1. Have confirmed they have not made noms -- probably coordinating the noms. MoCs ought to have the courtesy to just get on with the noms so candidates can gear up or move to plans B and C. Early Decision and Early Action results are coming from universities and the candidates fellow classmates all smiles while the MoCs leave the candidates as helpless as a Captain becalmed. Patience, waiting as a learned military skill, etc. no excuse for MoCs dithering.
I hear you Bill. I do believe they are coordinating nominations as you say. Hopefully we will hear something soon. I do have plan B and C, but would love to hear by years end. I do need to start planning real soon. Thanks for your response.
The deadline for MOCs to provide the nominations to USAFA is January 31st. They still have over a month before that deadline so it is hardly "dithering" if they do not have their nominations in, yet. Patience is indeed required in this process.
Respectfully disagree. Putting the timeline in context of what else is happening in college admissions can and should be done. Early admissions and early decisions are out. Candidates are in their high schools not even knowing whether they get to the 50-5-/60-40 part of the funnel because of MoCs who fail to prioritize. At the Holidays, friends, neighbors, relatives all asking about "where are you going to college" it would at least be nice to know whether or not a candidate has made it further down the funnel. It took the framers of the Constitution to write, negotiate, and agree the US Constitution - a document without precedent in the world -- 116 days. For a MoC to complete a slate to take the same amount of time is a bit absurd in my opinion. Importantly, in my view, wWorking to the deadline of January 31 is the wrong way to view this. It is the least effort approach -- something that the candidates, by contrast, can and would never do and still be in a position for a nomination. That the largest states Texas, Florida, New York and California can complete their processes in far less time than a state 1/20th of the size shows that nominations are not a priority to certain MoCs. Perhaps they do not understand the context for the candidates and folks with influence can explain to them the situation from the candidates' perspectives. Making the decline for MoCs slates December 21st would have some nice symbolism as both the darkest day and the beginning of brighter days . . .
My DS received a letter from his MOC dated 12/07/17 in the mail on 12/15/17 called and accepted the Nomination the day it was received. It posted this morning 12/21/17 to his Portal. I found him in my living room on the coffee table doing the "Friends" Coffee table dance! it posted.. it posted!
Last year son got his nomination at the end of January. He received his TWE in very late April/early May.
Just have patience and focus on getting plan B locked in place. You'll be pleasantly surprised when an appointment comes or relieved you put deposits down and applied for scholarships if it doesn't.
USAFA has an admissions timeline that works to give candidates more than enough notice of admittance to meet the May 1 deadline for acceptance or decline of offers from colleges. I don't see why they should change that so that young Johnny or Janie has something to tell their grandma at Christmas about their college search. If a student applies to another college for EA or ED, that student is giving the impression that if they are selected early they will commit to that school. If they get that offer, then they should go to that school. I don't see how that is a concern to USAFA if the candidate has chosen to do EA to a different college since they have already made their choice. January 31 is the deadline given to MOCs and there is no harm in them using all of the allotted time to make their decision. As stated above, they have a lot more things going on than just service academy nominations.
Don't think that the present Congress compares well compared to the framers of Constitution.
If one were to have both a senatorial nomination and congressional nomination, which is the situation I'm and both are to USAFA, I would assume it helps my standing but not sure how.
Our Congressman called DS exactly 8 years ago on Christmas Eve informing him of his nomination. The BFE showed up in the mail 5 weeks later. Good Luck all!
I have a similar question. I know more nominations allows a candidate a greater chance for appointment based on being on more than one slate, but does it help for the national pool if they do not win either slate? (i.e. would having a senatorial and a congressional give a candidate more points for the ranking in a national pool?)
There are very few individuals that have first hand knowledge of specific scoring parameters, but my assumption would be no. Given that there states where the MOCs coordinate nominations to avoid duplication, my own (uninformed) opinion would be that the SAs would not create scoring mechanism that would handicap candidates from states with a coordinated nomination process.
I sure hope this is the case. The playing field is already uneven due to some having both congressional and senate nominations and others allowed just one because of coordination. The former have more chances up front (more slates). To also give them an advantage in scoring on the NWL would be double jeopardy for candidates whose MOCs coordinated.
I totally understand your frustration with the waiting game. Keep in mind that even if a candidate were to know they have a NOM or multiple Noms by 21Dec, they are no closer to knowing what "college" they are going to. It will feel good knowing that one more part of the process is complete and that the possibility of an appointment is closer, but the waiting will continue. After witnessing DS go through the process last year, I can assure you that your requested nomination deadline of 21DEC to know about a nomination would not help answer the "college " question at Christmas, or remove the stress of waiting.
DS was notified early DEC by his MOC that he was a Principal nominee. After much research, we realized this was a great thing. We also quickly realized that an appointment was still no guarantee, as he still needed to be 3Q. We didn't know when 3Q notification would come, but his application, CFA, and DODMERB were all completed prior to the NOM, so he HAS to be 3Q right? And he for sure will get an appointment right? Keep waiting......
So we didn't tell anyone that he was for sure "In" and going to the Academy (because he really wasn't...yet). The explanation of his Principal nomination and 3Q etc.. was way too much for most people to understand in a casual conversation. So we continued the waiting and witnessed many other candidates receiving their offers of appointments while crickets on our side.
After a couple more months of waiting, the BFE came in February! USMA 2021.
Then the waiting until R Day begin and the worry of injury, etc, etc begin as well....REPEAT as necessary
An amazing year later and he's home for Christmas. Seems like a long time ago when he went through all of that!
Best of luck to all those "waiting " , and enjoy your family time this Christmas while remembering the reason for the season.....
I hear ‘ya ️!! DS holds principal noms from both senators. He was also notified almost immediately after his first nom that he had a ‘guaranteed offer of appointment’ (LOA? He sees it called so many different things on portal and emails) pending receipt of body fat form (which he also had to do for USAFA and passed, so not anticipating issues at all. He is a 3 sport athlete and not known as ‘fat’ ). It’s been submitted. Just checked his portal to see if updated yet by chance and we see a 3rd nom from his congressman this morning!! So humbled by all this support. He is just ‘our kid’ to us. Never ever had all this on our radar for him!!! It was all still something very special to celebrate for Christmas, but doesn’t seem real until that BFE I suppose.
So now we are just waiting until he gets that option to ACCEPT. Then we do that whole bubble wrap thing I read about. As he makes plans for spring break senior road trips. Not so sure how I feel about that one....
A new question: I have seen references to “accepting” or “declining” a nomination: is this something a nom source sets out or requires from a candidate? None of DS’s letters form mom’s have requested he accept or decline their nomination? He will be thanking all three sources for their nomination for sure.
I suspect the references to "accepting" and "declining" that you've heard are to appointments, not nominations. Appointees typically have until May 1st to accept/decline an appointment.
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