Nominations FAQ

Capt MJ

10-Year Member
Yes you are nominated. You can still receive an appointment if you are not the principal nom. 150+ appointees are selected each year off the National Waiting list... which consists of EVERYONE who has an appointment.
@kinnem “...who has an appointment.” Nomination? The forum gremlins made you type “appointment.” I often wonder how many times I have typed those two words here on SAF.
 

kinnem

Moderator
5-Year Member
Yes you are nominated. You can still receive an appointment if you are not the principal nom. 150+ appointees are selected each year off the National Waiting list... which consists of EVERYONE who has an appointment.
@kinnem “...who has an appointment.” Nomination? The forum gremlins made you type “appointment.” I often wonder how many times I have typed those two words here on SAF.
Thanks Capt! I went back and corrected the original post.
 

skiergirl24

Member
I just read this entire thread, and now I am confused. Will someone explain how the National Waiting List and/or National Pool works? It seems like that consists of everyone who has a nomination, but how can they get an appointment if their nominating source/MOC slate was already charged to someone else? One post said something about the secretary of the Air Force, so I am wondering how that process works. Does the secAF nominate people or just appoint them since they have a nom from a MOC/or other source? How many people from this National Pool get appointed? I am seeing the number 150/year.

I have also searched secretary AF, secAF nominations, and read everything on this forum about it that I could find. I would really appreciate an answer, and I apologize if this was answered already and I just couldn't find it.
 
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kinnem

Moderator
5-Year Member
You're right that the pool consists of everyone who has a nomination. The typical class size is 1100 and there are only 535 MOCs. Clearly there are people who are not charged to the MOCs who get selected for appointment. Some will have a Presidential nomination, and be charged to the President. Some will have a VP nom, and be charged to the VP. By Law, 150 folks who have not been appointed must be selected from the top of the OML list. Some will have a ROTC nomination and are charged to that source. Some, who are enlisted, will have a SecAF nomination and will be charged to the SecAF. I am sure there are other categories I'm forgetting. The academy is free to select any remaining nominees, from the NWL, in any manner it chooses to round out it's class.
 

boxmm24

Member
If a candidate is given multiple appointments (ie Presidential and MOC), is there a way to know which nomination source "secured" the appointment after all is said and done? I see appointment threads with people who have received nominations from 3 sources when they accepted. It seems that those who are accepted in the later phases who had multiple nominations will "free up" nomination slots in the spring when they accept and only one is used. Just wondering if it is possible to know which one was charged and from which source? I'm assuming that a MOC or Senatorial will always be used over a Presidential, but maybe I am wrong about that. Just trying to understand the process!
 

NavyHoops

Super Moderator
5-Year Member
Not necessarily true on the last sentence. It could be charged to any of them. And the assumption that someone ‘frees up a spot’ isn’t necessarily true either. There are a so many factors and scenarios that could play out that it’s impossible to describe them. And yes, I know for USNA you can find out from the Registrars office (or at least you used to be able to).
 

OldRetSWO

USNA 78/parent 11/BGO for >25yrs
5-Year Member
Not necessarily true on the last sentence. It could be charged to any of them. And the assumption that someone ‘frees up a spot’ isn’t necessarily true either. There are a so many factors and scenarios that could play out that it’s impossible to describe them. And yes, I know for USNA you can find out from the Registrars office (or at least you used to be able to).
You can also pull your admissions record from Nimitz Library and see where you were "charged". I also discovered that you can read the recommendations and other comments that were made during the process.
 

Impulsive

Member
Just wanted to bring up "Service Connected Disabled Veterans". The "big three", USMA, USNA, and USAAF all have "codified" in Law provisions for children of 100% Disabled Veterans, children of MIA's or POW's, or children Service Members who died on AD.
For USMA it is 32 CFR 575.3(b)
For USNA it is 10 USC 695(a)(1)
For USAAF it is 32 CFR 901.11

Each Academy is required to accept the top 65 applicants each year if otherwise qualified
 

mapa

New Member
Nomination FAQs continued . . .
Who can apply for a Presidential nom?
As a general premise, Presidential noms are available for children with a parent/legal guardian who either is retired from the military or is currently on active duty or in the Reserves and has spent at least 8 continuous years on active duty or in the Reserves. The specific requirements are listed on the SA websites. If you have at least one parent who meets the requirements listed, you can apply for a Pres nom. It is done on-line and basically consists of providing documentation (which your parent will have) to support your eligibility. No essays, recommendations, etc. are required.
Please reconfirm the FAQ guidance indicating that the application for a Presidential nom "is done on-line."

From what I've seen regarding Presidential noms, yes, the guidance and "requirements are listed on the SA websites." But the guidance provided indicates that applications (letter plus supporting document) for a Pres nom are submitted via snail-mailed letter to the relevant SA. I have not found anywhere to indicate the application for a Pres nom "is done on-line."
 

justdoit19

Member
I attended an MOC Service Academy Forum with DS, and the Air National Guard rep was talking about how they also have slots through the LEAD program, that go unfilled every year. There are a lot of different places to obtain a nomination. Obviously not everyone meets the qualifications for all of them. But when people try and do the “nomination math”, they aren’t factoring in all the the sources available for a nom.
 
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