North Carolina Nominations

That (the Sens talking) would make sense. I do have a buddy who got a nom from his MOC (Brad Miller) with no LOA or interview. Go figure.

Good idea with the resume & LOA, that's exactly what I did for the past two interviews. Great minds think alike, huh? ;)
 
Not every MOC will interview. Some go purely by paper resume. Do not compare your stats to the good friend because you have different Cong. They may have had the luck of the draw from a geographic reason when it came to the nom, and nothing to do with them racking and stacking against you. My bet, you had the bad draw if you went cranium to cranium you would be here right now with at least 1 nom.

The thing that is really impacting this yr is the economy. The military has traditionally had an inverse relationship with the economy.

Good economy, low retention. Bad economy high retention.

Now take that out a little bit further. Bad economy; scholarships tighten up and competition increases.

That means kids who never thought of going the military route will throw their hat in the ring, thus 3 yrs ago if in NC they had 150 candidates, they may now have 225.

Here's my fear for you. You want WP and Ft Bragg is a big installation. Wherever there is a large military installation, competition increases.

Flipside, Foxx is not a big military pull so the competition should be less competitive compared compared to the 2nd, 7th and 8th district of NC where military bases are in an abundance.
 
Thanks for the good info, that all makes sense. Especially the part about increased apps.
 
I am not a betting woman at all. However, if you go in with resumes for the interview and attach that LOA, I am willing to bet you will get on that slate for Foxx.

All you need is a nom.

I would also say as a MOM no more riding down the bannister or jumping on the tramp...bubble wrap yourself.

I have been here for 3+ yrs and I have never seen an LOA candidate not get apptd.

Granted there is always a first, but LOAs even for WP is still only handed to the top 10%.

Stop worrying...start thinking about what tux to wear to the Prom. Spend the next 12 weeks hanging with the buds playing Halo or that War game for Xbox (I am a mom).

Go in and believe in yourself, believing and pompous are 2 different things. You will do fine. Remember they get your are 17/18, just be respectful. If you can't think of a response, say, something like, honestly because I am only 17/18 my experience limits me regarding that question.

Honesty also matters!

Good luck.

G Bless for stepping up to serve this great nation.

Remember, no matter what happens, this opportunity to just interview shows how great you are!
 
Ditto Pima's response

HeloPilot_2015 - A few tidbits that may help fill in some blanks. Don't know if senators/congressman are talking but Burr's office did contact DS to confirm that he had an LOA and to ask if he had received a nomination from any other source. Answer to both was yes (multiple LOAs). He did not get invited to interview with Burr presumably because they realized the condition of the LOAs had been met. A classmate, with similar stats, presidential nomination, but no LOA was invited. Due to our location they were applying for noms from different congressmen as well. Since then DS has received noms from Hagan (after interview with selection committee)to USNA and congressional noms (no interview) to USNA, USAFA, USMA followed by appointments to all three (accepted USNA) and classmate has received noms from congressman. No word yet from Burr but should come out soon. As Pima mentioned, the LOA seems to carry weight with MOCs. Every stage son has been asked about or they have acknowledged that he had the LOA. From the looks of the stats in your previous post and considering the LOA in hand your patience will be rewarded. Hang in there and thank you for making a choice to serve. Best of luck to you and all the candidates still waiting to hear.:thumb:
 
Thanks for the encouragement and great advice.

Great news! I checked the mail earlier and there was a letter from Senator Burr congratulating me for receiving his nomination to West Point! To be honest, I was a bit nervous before opening it because it was in a tiny envelope. Anyways, what a great feeling!
 
I got the same letter Helo!!!

You're lucky though, because of your LOA! I've got Hagan's, Burr's, and Brad Miller's nominations, but no appointment yet.
 
Congrats

HeloPilot_2015 and cmcollum4693 - Congratulations on your noms. One step closer to the BFE. Keep doing the things that got you to this point! :smile:
 
Congrats to you all.

Good luck, and thank you for serving.
 
Thank you!

Quick question: about how long does it usually take for the nomination to show up in my candidate portal?
 
It could take a week or a few weeks. That depends on how fast they submit the slate and the back log for your RD to put in your file.
 
For Pima

You are a treasure of info and we thank you. I believe I read where someone posted that NC is not as competitive or something like that. Could you explain what that means? I think it was in a thread about nominations and NC, but I can't find it now. Thanks in advance!

To Helopilot Congrats big time on the nomination. DS spoke with someone at MOC interviews in Asheville from the another area of NC/ mountains, that he did not see on Hagan's list when it came out, so if that is you and you now have a nomination he will be happy to know that. Please note that I am not trying to find out where you are from, etc. I am just wishing you congratulations big time! Good luck to you!
 
Thank you! Nope, that's not me. I haven't yet had my MOC interview (it's tomorrow).
 
I just got a letter from Richard Burr saying that he is nominating me, and I got a nomination from Coble, my Rep in December. I'm really hoping to hear from the Air Force Academy soon! :biggrin:
 
Could you explain what that means?
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Competitiveness really refers to how many applications they get on a whole. Traditionally the states that are densely populated are seen as more competitive. Most competitive are states that are both very populated and have a big military connection (SAs, bases, posts, etc).

Take Montana for example compared to NY. Every Cong. has the same amount of constituents, but when you get to the Sen level, every state still has only 2. If Montana has less constituents from that Sen. perspective than NY, it may not be as competitive.

Now throw into the mix that NY has an SA, and that adds into the equation. Think home team for a football game.

NC has Bragg, Cherry Pt, LeJeune, SJAFB and Pope, but they are not an over populated state and someone with a Cong from Boone will probably have a smaller list for AF than someone from Goldsboro. Same as someone from Goldsboro on Cong Butterfield's list will probably have a better shot for WP than the AFA.

The most competitive states, not in order, are:
CA, CO, TX, NY, FL, and VA.

The easiest way to get a feel for future candidates is ask the MOC's if they talk. The states I just mentioned talk. They flat out say that if you have a nom from one source don't try for ours. NC has yet to state that, thus when you say competitive they are not at the top of the pile.

When they start talking that = competitive regarding getting a nom.

I believe back when our DS went through it Burr had 150 applications for 10 spots. That sounds competitive, but when you go to a state like VA with 3,4,5 times that amount you can get how fortunate you are to be a NC resident and not in another state, such as NY or CA.
 
thanks pima

I understand a little bit better, now. Hagan had 275 applicants and gave 40 noms. Burr checked to see if DS had a nom (yes). Another stated in letter that if you already have a nom, let them know (decided to go ahead with interview per DS request). It is interesting how some in NC will have several noms. It depends on your location.

Thanks much for your explanation.
 
Pima said:
The most competitive states, not in order, are:
CA, CO, TX, NY, FL, and VA.
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I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on this one... When we were at SLS it seemed to me (and many other people as well) that NC was very well represented (competitive). My roomate was from Charlotte. Another guy in my squad went to NC School of Math and Science and he said that 15 other kids from HIS SCHOOL (given, it is a very prestigious magnet school) were there spread out between the two sessions. The guy who stood in front of me in formation was from Asheville.
The loser in the Lt. Gov race at NC Boys' State this year received his appointment back in September (attended the session of SLS I didn't). I can think of at least 5 others that I know from Boys' State who applied/been appointed to USMA. And at least once in every briefing at SLS it seemed like somebody stood up and said "john doe, NC" before their question. I remember having a conversation with somebody from NC about how there was no way mathematically either of us would get appointed, that there just weren't enough Senators and Congressman to go around. Thank goodness some of those guys got presidential noms:rolleyes:

No doubt in my mind, as far as number of applicants go, NC is very well represented.

Just a small point: Also noticed TONS of TX, VA (as Pima said) at SLS. TX probably had the most people there, if I had to guess.
 
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mtnman, do you mean education wise? Or were you meaning competitive nominations?
 
At NASS I had trouble finding others from NC. A girl from my squad goes to a school in the same district as me in Charlotte, and a teammate from xc was there. Aside from just asking from just asking people where they were from, I did not feel like NC was represented very well. However when n=25 or so, it is tough to make definite statements. It did seem like everyone was from either TX or CA, especially San Diego.
 
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